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June 17[edit]

Category:Armenian terrorist groups[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering 18:22, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category is redundant and POV. Charles Essie (talk) 19:12, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Terrorist is a subjective term. Rathfelder (talk) 08:57, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment for clarity are these groups of ethnic Armenians or of Armenian nationals (as opposed to nationals of Turkey, the Ottoman Empire, Russia, the Soviet Union, or other countries)? If the former, it should be so titled in keeping with the distinction between Category:Armenian people and Category:Ethnic Armenian people; if the latter it should be purged by all groups based outside Armenia. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:33, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    This distinction is absurd. Since when is the word Armenian used only in relation to the Armenian state, which has existed only since 1991? Everywhere outside Wikipedia, Armenians are called Armenians, not Ethnic Armenians. It's the Armenian Genocide, not the Ethnic Armenian Genocide, and the Armenian Church has never been called the Ethnic Armenian Church despite centuries of existence outside any Armenian state. I know there is a whole hierarchy of alledged Ethnic Armenian people in our category structure, I am pulling my hair since the day it was carved out of the perfectly fine Armenian people or People of Armenian descent. It's like saying that Dante Alighieri was not Italian but Ethnic Italian, or that Goethe was not German but Ethnic German, because no state called Italy or Germany existed in their time.
    In the present case, terrorism linked to the Armenian cause has existed, and the fact that members of such groups were citizens of Soviet Armenia or independent Armenia is not relevent. There were probably both, and it would not be a reason to split these categories along citizenship lines. Place Clichy (talk) 10:33, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Mild oppose This discussion should probably be held for the entire Terrorism by perpetrator. Terrorism linked to the Armenian cause has occurred, and it would be whitewashing to call these groups militant groups. However, the category seems poorly populated, with several groups not mentioned, including the Justice Commandos of the Armenian Genocide, and maybe the Armenian Revolutionary Federation of the time of Operation Nemesis. Place Clichy (talk) 10:33, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, Category:Organizations designated as terrorist in Europe has not otherwise been diffused by ethnicity and I do not see a need for such a diffusion. Note that 2 out of the 3 articles in the category are also directly in Category:Organizations designated as terrorist in Europe and I cannot see if the third article belongs there as well. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:28, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Admin comment: there were no WikiProjects on the talk page; I have just added some, which may put this discussion onto the relevant Alerts pages. I have also posted direct notices at WikiProjects Armenia and Terrorism. Please leave this discussion open for another week. – Fayenatic London 09:34, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Association for Democracy and People's Livelihood[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Deletion is best considered separately. Timrollpickering 13:58, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per Hong Kong Association for Democracy and People's Livelihood. Charles Essie (talk) 19:11, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Austrian resistance[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 13:57, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per Austrian Resistance. Charles Essie (talk) 19:09, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Since it was not organised, lower case. Though there were several groups, they were organised so that French Resistance would be more appropriate in that case (and other occupied countries). Peterkingiron (talk) 15:52, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Balochistan conflict[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 11:28, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per Insurgency in Balochistan. Charles Essie (talk) 19:08, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Cantons of Rojava[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 11:28, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per Regions of the Democratic Federation of Northern Syria, Afrin Region, Jazira Region and Euphrates Region. Charles Essie (talk) 19:05, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Education in Rojava[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 18:06, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per Democratic Federation of Northern Syria and Category:Democratic Federation of Northern Syria. Charles Essie (talk) 19:03, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I guess it didn't occur to me. Charles Essie (talk) 19:51, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Green Party (Colombia)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename the second, WP:SOFTDELETE of the first. – Fayenatic London 22:00, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per Green Alliance (Colombia). Charles Essie (talk) 19:02, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Halloween (franchise)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 11:29, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per Halloween (franchise) and Category:Halloween (franchise). Charles Essie (talk) 19:00, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:History of the Republic of Italy[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:20, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per History of the Italian Republic. Charles Essie (talk) 18:59, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Illyrism[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 13:12, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per Illyrian movement. Charles Essie (talk) 18:58, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. "Illyrism" is supposedly the idea or the (political) ideology behind the Illyrian movement. No real distinction between the two, and "Illyrian movement" is preferable, I'd say. GregorB (talk) 11:34, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Intra-Palestinian peace efforts[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: relisted, see here (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:35, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per Fatah–Hamas reconciliation process. Charles Essie (talk) 18:57, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Mild oppose as the scope of this category seems wider than that of the article. It includes other articles mentioning peace efforts involving other organisations than Fatah and Hamas, such as PFLP and DFLP, which have seen serious confrontation in the past. Place Clichy (talk) 10:33, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Iran–Saudi proxy conflict[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 11:30, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per Iran–Saudi Arabia proxy conflict. Charles Essie (talk) 18:56, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Jedi Apprentice[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 11:31, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per Star Wars: Jedi Apprentice. Charles Essie (talk) 18:55, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Kurdistan Workers' Party factions[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering 11:31, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: These aren't factions of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK). They're the different wings of the party (except for maybe the Civil Protection Units (YPS) as the nature of their relationship with the PKK is unclear). Charles Essie (talk) 18:54, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question what is practically speaking the difference between factions and wings? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:24, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Factions are generally not recognised or official. Wings are part of an official party structure. Rathfelder (talk) 08:59, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - YPS is likely a wing, so i don't think the proposal is correct.GreyShark (dibra) 20:45, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Would you still support a merge? Charles Essie (talk) 17:33, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Legislature/Parliament of Nepal[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Parliament of Nepal but I'll move the provincial article and subcat to Category:Government of Nepal. (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:38, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: These are two categories for the same thing. Either name would be fine with me. Charles Essie (talk) 18:52, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Lusitanian Integralism[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:07, 5 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per Integralismo Lusitano. Charles Essie (talk) 18:51, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Military history of Rojava[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete Category:Rojava involvement in the Syrian Civil War. As a consequence, Category:Wars involving Rojava becomes empty so WP:SOFTDELETE that also. Rename the other three to Category:Military history of the Democratic Federation of Northern Syria, Category:Military operations of the Iraqi Civil War involving the Democratic Federation of Northern Syria and Category:Military operations of the Syrian Civil War involving the Democratic Federation of Northern Syria. – Fayenatic London 08:58, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete per WP:SMALLCAT. Charles Essie (talk) 18:48, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment, if SMALLCAT would be an issue, the nomination would consist of merge proposals instead of delete proposals. I am assuming that the nomination actually aims at deleting categories suggesting that Rojava has been a military player on its own. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:23, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - Category:Wars involving Rojava has 58 articles and thus is hardly small. Oculi (talk) 06:57, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and rename to Democratic Federation of Northern Syria instead of Rojava in all cats. Delete only Category:Rojava involvement in the Syrian Civil War, because Rojava is Syria and this doesn't make sense - involvement is by foreign parties.GreyShark (dibra) 20:47, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. Proposal withdrawn. Charles Essie (talk) 18:40, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:MonsterVerse films[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 11:32, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per MonsterVerse. Charles Essie (talk) 18:45, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Whoops! Charles Essie (talk) 14:25, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Movement 2 June[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 11:32, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per 2 June Movement. Charles Essie (talk) 18:43, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Movement for Change politicians[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 20:49, 5 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per Gorran Movement. Charles Essie (talk) 18:42, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:National romanticism[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 19:05, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per Romantic nationalism. Charles Essie (talk) 18:41, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Revolutionary People's Liberation Party–Front[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: result. Timrollpickering 11:32, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per Revolutionary People's Liberation Party/Front. Charles Essie (talk) 18:38, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Revolutions of 1917–23[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 11:33, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per Revolutions of 1917–1923. Charles Essie (talk) 18:36, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Sectarian conflict in Mandatory Palestine[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 11:33, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per Intercommunal conflict in Mandatory Palestine. Charles Essie (talk) 18:35, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Serbian Radical Party of the Republika Srpska[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename the second, WP:SOFTDELETE of the first. – Fayenatic London 23:35, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per Serbian Radical Party of Republika Srpska. Charles Essie (talk) 15:36, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:The Mummy films[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 11:34, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per The Mummy (franchise). Charles Essie (talk) 15:34, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:The Purge films[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 11:34, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per The Purge (film series). Charles Essie (talk) 15:32, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Transformers (film) video games[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 11:34, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per Transformers (film series) and Category:Transformers (film series). Charles Essie (talk) 15:31, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Underworld (film series)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:51, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale:. WP:SMALLCAT Charles Essie (talk) 15:28, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Westworld characters[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:55, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale:. WP:SMALLCAT Charles Essie (talk) 15:26, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Years in Rojava[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Withdrawn. (non-admin closure)  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  17:48, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale:. WP:SMALLCAT Charles Essie (talk) 15:24, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment, if SMALLCAT would be an issue, the nomination would consist of merge proposals instead of delete proposals. I am assuming that the nomination actually aims at deleting categories suggesting that Rojava has been a polity of its own. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:25, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - the nom does seem intent on removing 'Rojava' categories as merge proposals should be to all parents, such as Category:History of Rojava. Oculi (talk) 07:06, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I guess I didn't think this through very well. I withdraw all my deletion propoals for the 'Rojava' categories. Charles Essie (talk) 20:10, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - we have Category:2015 in Iraqi Kurdistan etc, so why Rojava autonomy in Syria is different? Smallcat applies to cats which cannot be expanded (like 1765 BC in the Babylonian Empire). This is not the case.GreyShark (dibra) 20:49, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You're right. Proposal withdrawn. Charles Essie (talk) 18:41, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Yemeni civil war (2015–present)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 11:35, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per Yemeni Civil War (2015–present). Charles Essie (talk) 15:20, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Soil and crop science organizations[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. – Fayenatic London 08:44, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: split, these are two topics unnecessarily mixed up in one category. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:26, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Leaning oppose I can see several are "soil-only", but many seem to be mixed, like the American Society of Agronomy, which mentions both areas. It's not a huge category, & I'm not sure a split is needed with the present population, or a clean one possible. I think the problem is more fundamental - for example, not one of the many in Category:Agricultural organisations based in England is in this category, whereas many would seem to qualify. We probably already have too many underpopulated categories, and not enough categorization - this nom will not help either. As so often, fiddling at CfD is not what is needed. Johnbod (talk) 15:17, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is obviously a bit of overlap but the focus in Soil science is much more on the properties of soil rather than just regarding soil as a means for agriculture. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:33, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - Most colleges that offer majors in agronomy are now offering them in crop, plant, or environmental sciences. If you look at how crops (and plants for that matter) are grown, they require soil to make it happen. The Soil and crop science organizations category has about 20 listings when I checked prior to making this selection. This is for any global organization that deals with soil and crop science. Chris (talk) 18:34, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not sure why "Most colleges that offer majors in agronomy are now offering them in crop, plant, or environmental sciences." is a reason to oppose. It seems like that statement is similar to the fact that here in WP Crop science is a redirect to Agricultural science - but then Soil science is still something separate. The fact that crops require soil to grow is a poor reason to oppose, as they also require water and sun so grow and we do not want to have meteorology to be included here. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:05, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. These organisations are almost all concerned with agronomy. For example the Soil museum(!) displays, for each sample, "where it is found, its nutrient status, the crops it is best suited for, and recommendations for use and management of land where the soil is present." Rathfelder (talk) 09:08, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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