Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Terran Federation (Starship Troopers) (2nd nomination)

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The result was redirect to Starship Troopers#Major themes. (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 14:37, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Terran Federation (Starship Troopers)[edit]

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This article does not meet the WP:GNG and is really a non-notable content fork of the section written at Starship_Troopers#Major_themes. At best, the sources are focused on the politics of Starship Troopers, but do not mention the Terran Federation except in passing. If there aren't sufficient sources to support a spinout from the main article, the answer isn't to create a non-notable spinout, but to clean-up the section at the main article. There is nothing to talk about the overall Terran Federation "directly and in detail" to pass the WP:GNG, WP:PLOT, or WP:WAF. Jontesta (talk) 19:59, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Jontesta (talk) 19:59, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Toughpigs (talk) 20:21, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science fiction and fantasy-related deletion discussions. Toughpigs (talk) 20:21, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fancrufty article that fails WP:GNG._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 20:21, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Barely mentioned in the FA-class Starship Troopers article. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 02:35, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge. This really hinges on the 'analysis' section and whether it is sufficiently in-depth in sources that this could be kept. There is some discussion in [1], which has been cited in a number of other works (ex. [2]). In the present state, the article is poor and I don't see why this tiny section couldn't be merged to Starship_Troopers#Major_themes, as outside of the analysis section the rest of the article is the usual plot summary/fancruft/OR. That said, it possible this section could be expanded into a dedicated article. I think there is some discussion in [3] but I can't get proper preview of the relevant pages. But we also have to ask ourselves if the proper way to frame a potential spin-off article is indeed to focus is on the entity of "Terrna Federation", or on the themes of militarism, facism, etc. in the book. Right now I'd suggest merging the analysis section with the 'themes' section of the main ST article, but I am open to seeing if this couldn't be rewritten and rescued. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:14, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect or delete - Topic lacks enough sores to stand alone. If the above aren't present in the parent article, might be worth trying to salvage a bit of the article to merge, but that should be decided by a discussion on the talk page of the main article due to its featured status. TTN (talk) 21:21, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as a topic that lacks sources covering this in direct detail, as per WP:GNG. The main article already covers the political themes discussed here. Shooterwalker (talk) 17:40, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Starship Troopers - As stated in the nom, this is little more than a poorly written content fork from that article. Rorshacma (talk) 19:31, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect, but I suggest to Starship_Troopers_(franchise) page instead of the novel FA article as I feel it may create undue issues. Haleth (talk) 23:59, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.