Talk:Alstom Aventra

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Contradiction section[edit]

Two or one air conditioning units - that is the question.Imgaril (talk) 11:57, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe someone can make heads or tails of this information from http://content.yudu.com/Library/A1mz4o/RailEngineerMarch201/resources/29.htm. The section on page 29 titled Energy saving climate control is apparently where the information originated. Susanperu (talk) 23:00, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I found a lot of text copied from that source, which explains why it read like and advert.. Have removed all that, and the template:advert tag. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aventra&diff=509176991&oldid=442883355

(that sort of solves the contradiction problem too..)

There is information enough in the sources to expand the article., but it needs to be written not copied..Oranjblud (talk) 01:47, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The article might have been more comprehensive if you have not cleared that stuff out. As it is, the content is negligible and a proprer article needs writing.

I do not know how to access and add to the reflist. Please could someone more knowledgeable add a link to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZqsdOEdUuA which is a Bombardier promotional video dated October 2013 papermaker (talk) 10:16, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done. bobrayner (talk) 00:15, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Class 711 number[edit]

Here is the relevant quote from the provided source, available on PressReader:

"The document also shows that the five-car sets were to be classified as Class 705s, while the ten-car trains were to be ‘711s’. Instead, these will be ‘701s’, and the ten Aventras ordered for c2c will be Class 711s."

LostCause231 (talk) 10:04, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Rename to Alstom Aventa[edit]

With Alstom's purchase of Bombardier Transportation, should this page be renamed to Alstom Aventra? --Enotayokel (talk) 11:42, 23 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's far too early to say what will happen with the branding of Bombardier business unit or their products. Is there any indication that Litchurch Lane and it's products will change name? As that would be the trigger for considering changing the name of the article. Though given that Aventras were designed and a large number introduced under the Bombardier brand there's reason to keep the existing title.Qazwsx777 (talk) 12:17, 23 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We don't know what Alstom has planned for Bombardier's products, and it's far too early to change the title of this article. Bombardier will build the trains that they are contracted to do so, and then we'll have to see what happens in future. Anything else would be WP:CRYSTAL.

@Enotayokel: - until we have references that new trains (701, 720, 730) are being branded Alstom instead of Bombardier - the existing manufacturer should be left. In future, we may want to edit this article similar to something like Bombardier Incentro - which talks about the history of the model being designed by Adtranz before its purchase by Bombardier. As above, that would have to be referenced. But that's a edit for another, future time. Turini2 (talk) 12:46, 23 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Enotayokel: Alstom are marketing the Aventra as an Alstom product on their website; I think now is the time to change the article name. Look here. --Doomotron (talk) 19:13, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support, but preserve the current name until the new hydrogen units (or an Aventra under Alstom) is built. XtraJovial (talk) 07:18, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like Alstom are now listing them as Alstom Aventra's in their references - https://www.alstom.com/solutions/rolling-stock/commuter-trains-backbone-city-life - Enotayokel (talk) 21:44, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's not surprising, but WP should wait until another WP:RS, such as an rail operating company, is found which uses "Alstom" rather than "Bombardier". Bazza (talk) 08:56, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Photos on this page[edit]

EJD799 left the below message on my talk page -

"I feel that my edit to Alstom Aventra is benificial as the previous image was of a variant that looks nothing like the other ones. EJD799 (talk) 19:32, 12 September 2023 (UTC)"[reply]

Turini2 (talk) 20:40, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In response, I direct you to MOS:IMAGERELEVANCE - I do think you can argue that the 730 doesn't look like the majority of Aventras delivered, however the photo you proposed was not an improvement. Maybe find one that we all can agree is better? Turini2 (talk) 20:42, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why is it "not an improvement"? EJD799 (talk) 19:59, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The photo you proposed - quite a dark image, it's very nearly head on (so you can't see the livery of the train) and it could be cropped a little tighter. For example, the image on the Class 345 page is a much better photo of that train. Turini2 (talk) 08:59, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@EJD799 We're supposed to be discussing photos so we can find consensus? It's best not to change things when discussions are ongoing. Turini2 (talk) 08:13, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]