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Good article reassessment for Han van Meegeren

Han van Meegeren has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:05, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Dutch capitalization again

In WP:PHYSICS we have many articles with inconsistent capitalization of Dutch names. I know that this has been discussed before to no solution. I was wondering if we could solve this by using a template similar to {{Family name hatnote}} that is used in some biographies. Here is an example of what I mean, for Wander Johannes de Haas (compare also with Einstein–de Haas effect and De Haas–Van Alphen effect) we could have a hatnote template that does this:

In this article we use Dutch grammar for Tussenvoegsels in family names. The first letter in De Haas is capitalized unless it is preceded by a first name.

This would help getting notice of the convention of each article. It would not be enforced (I do not think there has been any consensus on the matter), but it would avoid some slight edit wars here and there. Suggestion are welcome. ReyHahn (talk) 15:11, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Capitalisation of names depends on the country of origin. In the Netherlands, Tussenvoegsels have a lowercase letter, in Flanders, they have a uppercast letter. So if someone lives in the Netherlands, the name is f.i. written as 'de Haas', and in Flanders the name is written as 'De Haas'. Moreover, in Flanders those names are sorted as if the tussenvoegsel is part of the name, so 'De Haas' is sorted under the letter 'D', while in the Netherlands, 'de Haas' is placed under the letter 'H'. To make it even more complicated: I have a colleague in the Netherlands whose name is written as 'Van Oosten', because her family is from Flanders. I don't think there is consensus about that. Erik Wannee (talk) 14:27, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Sure, again no consensus here. I just saying that each article that uses a convention should be stated. How do I change the wording to reflect that? Note that this has nothing to do with how to order the name alphabetically.--ReyHahn (talk) 22:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

My understanding is that in Dutch, the tusenvoegsel starts with a lower case letter only if it is in the middle of a name. For example "The statement was rebutted by Joop den Uyl" but "The statement was rebutted by Den Uyl". In the first case we use a lower case "d" because the word "den" is in the middle of his name, but in the second case, we use an uppercase "D" because it is the first letter of his name (as written in the document}. 2A00:23C8:1DAE:2401:60DF:B4CF:23CF:2EE2 (talk) 21:22, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

That was my understanding too. That's why we should state it when the article uses that convention.--ReyHahn (talk) 22:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

The title "Geslacht!"

I've been editing the Raven van Dorst article. Is the TV program title Geslacht! a play on words in Dutch? In addition to the literal meaning of "sex" (as in biological sex) it possibly also suggests something like "slaughtered" (afgeslacht, geslachte). However, since I don't know Dutch at all, is this just a misunderstanding on my part? — The Anome (talk) 13:39, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Indeed, the word has both meanings in Dutch. But I cannot find in Dutch articles that the program title is meant as a play on words; I think the meaning in this context will be 'gender'. Erik Wannee (talk) 20:18, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Janny Knol

I recently created the page Janny Knol, the chief of the Dutch police. Could someone help me integrate/add it into the Wikiproject. Also, if you know more, please help edit. Thanks. Alexander vee (talk) 01:17, 20 May 2024 (UTC)