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Speedy deletion candidates

Candidates for speedy deletion

User talk:176.237.105.122/sandbox

2024 in Russia & Ukraine

Aparna kakirde

Draft:Astral Wraith

Atsuki Mashiko

Draft:Babu Ezhumalai

East Troublesome Fire

Ecast (disambiguation)

Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani? (disambiguation)

Every Woman in This Village is a Liar

Hypelist

Ibn al-Haytham (disambiguation)

Draft:List of Indian Kingdoms overthrown due to Muslim conquests

Draft:Pancho Mansfield

Draft:Mradek bhm

Draft:Priyadharshini

Rones Yuna

Draft:Saira Shah Halim

User:Snigdhakm/sandbox

Draft:Thomas Tieku

Draft:Why WWIII is inevitable

Articles

Guide to deletion

Batik Air Flight 6723

Batik Air Flight 6723 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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If other articles with injuries and damage are not notabile enough to have a page this has to be deleted. Also a lot of other cases of pilots falling asleep are not on Wikipedia

Delete it doesn't meet the notability guidelines and i agree with the reasoning behind this deletion. this article was deleted previously so i have no idea why it was re-added.

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Aleeze Nasser

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I don't see her meeting WP:ACTOR criteria, as I am unable to verify major roles in films which require as required per WP:ACTOR. I tried evaluating it based on WP:GNG, but there's not enough coverage to pass that either. AUTOBIO by Aleeze nasser (talk · contribs) —Saqib (talk I contribs) 13:27, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Alfred Davis

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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of wp:notability. Co-founder of Rolex. Article is basically just tidbits of Rolex history with mentions of him. Half of the small amount of material in the article is Rolex history that doesn't even mention him. The same with sources; there are no sources on him much less GNG sources. I did a search with the same results. Rolex history with just mentions of him in that context. Article was prodded by others in October and de-prodded by creator. During NPP work I did a merge/redirect into Rolex (there was no real material to merge) and creator reversed that. I don't think that the creator understands wp:notability; I left a note on their talk page explaining that it's about coverage. North8000 (talk) 12:22, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Comment: This book: [1] might have something, but I don't have access to it. The two sources cited in the article don't seem to be RS. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 13:49, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to Rolex. No notability independent of the company. Nothing in Internet Archive or newspapers.com beyond the basic fact of having founded the company with Wilsdorf. Jfire (talk) 15:17, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

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Micro (text editor)

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Besides one potentially WP:RS on the article, I wouldn't consider this article to pass WP:GNG. "[D]esigned around simplicity and ease of use" also makes the article quite promotional. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 12:56, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

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The promotional wording wasn't intentional. Anyhow in the context of WP:NSOFT, having 20k stars on GitHub and coverage in Linux Magazine and many other FOSS-focused sites makes it notability imo. Wqwt (talk) 13:13, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

• Keep: has decent coverage in Linux Magazine, ItsFoss, HowToGeek, and MakeUseOf. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 22:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

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List of television programmes broadcast by ITV

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Fails NOTDIRECTORY/NOTTVGUIDE. List criteria is programming "that are either currently being broadcast or have previously been broadcast", Wikipedia is not an electronic program guide, current or historical. Fails NLIST, no independent reliable sources discuss this as a group. BEFORE found programing schedules, nothing more. List has grown so much is it hard to tell if any of it is original programming, BEFORE did not find sources showing original programming discussed as a group.  // Timothy :: talk  07:15, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

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Delete: As per nominator. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 13:14, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Sangmin

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Prod challenged so bringing here. Totally unsourced, original research, before finds nothing. Theroadislong (talk) 07:16, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

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Keep, notable sources in the Korean language. [2] in Encyclopedia of Korean Culture, [3][4] (Parts of e-books on a history website maintained by the Academy of Korean Studies)

, academic paper [5].

I mentioned this in edit comment on the article, but we focus on notability first and foremost, and then look at article quality. And I agree, the article isn't great. This was an entire social class for centuries, and has been written about extensively in Korea. Lmk if you'd like me to dig up more sources. 104.232.119.107 (talk) 08:45, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

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Tommy Parsons

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fails WP:GNG Joeykai (talk) 12:58, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Carrier Air Group SIX

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No evidence that this formation meets the GNG. Of the currently-cited sources, 2, 3, and 5 are self-published, not independent, and not reliable (except for direct quotes from Navy documents in source 3). Source 1 [6] seems to list only establishment and disestablishment dates (not sigcov), which is more than I expected from a source supposedly covering "1910-1920" – it seems the citing editor made a typo, the citation should read "1910-2010". Source 4 [7] doesn't seem to mention this unit at all. In sum, there are 0 sources that count toward the GNG, and I couldn't find anything in a before search. Toadspike (talk) 10:03, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

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This can also be redirected to List of United States Navy aircraft wings. Toadspike (talk) 10:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep Subject is notable. WP:BEFORE seems to have overlooked Moroson, Lundstrom, Hammel, and books on the Battle of the Eastern Solomons or the Battle of Philippine Sea. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:35, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

  I am willing to withdraw this nomination if you can properly cite those books in the article. With that information alone, it is very hard to know what books you are talking about. For example, I don't know how to find a book by "Moroson", and could not find one with such a name on either battle you mentioned. Toadspike (talk) 08:09, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

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Spirit Level Film

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In short, fails WP:GNG and lacking of WP:RS. Source consists of WP:PRIMARY. The BBC source does not credit the production company. This, like many of those also listed via AfD, may have been created by WP:COI. SpacedFarmer (talk) 12:43, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Richard Causey

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This is WP:BLP1E. TarnishedPath^talk 12:40, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Could maybe redirect to Enron scandal, maybe a section like § Trials. Alpha3031 (t • c) 13:00, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

  They are not mentioned there. TarnishedPath^talk 13:05, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

The Snake and the Stallion

The Snake and the Stallion (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Besides being entirely or poorly unsourced, this does not assert ntoability, thus fails WP:GNG. SpacedFarmer (talk) 12:35, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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GT Racer

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Source is entirely unsourced, does not assert notability other than being broadcasted on a cable channel and thus fails WP:GNG SpacedFarmer (talk) 12:17, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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List of FA Cup broadcasters

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list that is fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. Of the sources per WP:RS; one is a Twitter post; and the rest are merely announcements, some are WP:PRIMARY. None of these are doing anything at all to help assert notability of lists like this. All the others are unsourced. SpacedFarmer (talk) 12:07, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Suckapunch Records

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Fails NCORP. Graywalls (talk) 11:59, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Komail Anam

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I don't see her meeting WP:SINGER or WP:ACTOR criteria, as I am unable to verify major roles in TV shows which require as required per WP:ACTOR. @MPGuy2824: redirected it, but it was restored by a SPA. I tried evaluating it based on WP:GNG, but there's not enough coverage to pass that either. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 11:58, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Hi there,

Thanks for reaching out about the article for Komail Anam. I understand your concerns about meeting the notability criteria for singers and actors (WP:SINGER & WP:ACTOR).

I've included sources in the article that demonstrate Komail Anams's involvement in major and side roles for notable TV shows.

Here are some suggestions:

- Consider the relevancy and credibility of the sources I've provided.

- You can also check the Wikipedia pages of the specific TV shows mentioned in the credits to verify their notability.

While WP:GNG might not be fully met at this point, the provided sources do establish involvement in established productions.

I do want to address the feeling of being bullied. Wikipedia relies on open discussion and collaboration, but it should always be done respectfully.

Would you be open to discussing this further and exploring ways to improve the article to meet notability criteria? We can work together to find a solution that ensures accuracy and adheres to Wikipedia's guidelines.

Thanks Thehasanansari (talk) 12:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Ricardo Dolmetsch

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WP:NOTLINKEDIN. The subject of the article fails several of our notability policies: there is no evidence of WP:INDEPTH coverage – all references are to publications where he was co-author, or to unrelated press releases about drugs that don't even mention the subject's name, not speaking about confirming his role or achievements. There is no evidence of compliance with any criteria listed under WP:NACADEMIC either. The listed awards are minor awards, none has an article (note: NIH Director's Pioneer Award is not an award honouring its recipients but a research initiative).

Worst: there are many unverified claims in the article: the subject, who left Novartis in 2020, is claimed to have been "involved in early successes in gene therapy, including (...) Zolgensma (...) and Hemgenix". However, Novartis was not involved in Zolgensma development – the drug was developed by a US startup Avexis which received marketing authorisation for it just before the subject left Novartis, while remaining a separate company from Novartis; whereas Hemgenix is not a success yet, as it's barely a year on the market with very little uptake from payers outside the US. Claims that Dolmetch contributed to their "successes" appear unfounded and entirely unsourced WP:PUFFERY.

Nearly every sentence needs one or more of {{citation needed}}, {{fails verification}}, or {{secondary source needed}}.

All in all, with lack of independent coverage, I don't think this coporate staff member fulfils our criteria of encyclopaedia-level notability. — kashmīrī ^TALK 11:33, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep, primarily through role in Novartis over many years rather than through academic posts. His research output is high; unusually, for a mid-career scientist, has had an interview published in a peer-reviewed journal (Nature Medicine). While there might be concerns about particular claims, these can be resolved by normal editing. Scopus H-factor of 49 suggest significant impact. Klbrain (talk) 12:42, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Akish

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Notability doubtful. RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 10:41, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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KSEX-CD

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 10:39, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Scientigo

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Small patent troll that made a bit of an ephemeral stir 20 years ago when it tried to claim a patent on XML. Quickly sank back into obscurity. As a company it doesn't really do anything. 29 employees, 6 million revenue. No sources meet WP:CORPDEPTH. WP:ORGCRIT tells us that sources for such companies must be presented with a stronger emphasis on quality of the sources to prevent gaming of the rules by marketing and public relations professionals. Thus CORPDEPTH says Deep or significant coverage provides an overview, description, commentary, survey, study, discussion, analysis, or evaluation of the product, company, or organization. No such sources exist. This is just a patent troll. Added a notability template in April to attempt to address the issues but this was summarily removed after a second report of the patent trolling was added (misdated. It is from 2005, and not 2020). Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 10:25, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep based on coverage in CNET (note the second page) MIT Technology Review and eWeek. These are all NCORP-standard sources, giving extended coverage and analysis of Scientigo and the merits of their claims. ZDNet, although the source itself is short, even had a co-editor of XML (Tim Bray) briefly weigh in on the issue, which does show the trolling was considered a fairly big deal.

I think the complaint the company is just a patent troll and doesn't really do anything misses the point a little bit – the patent trolling is precisely what the company is notable for. I agree it sank back into obscurity afterwards, but notability isn't temporary. The requirement is the company receives significant independent coverage in multiple sources; there's nothing about this coverage needing to take place over a prolonged period.

(misdated. It is from 2005, and not 2020) 2005 is the publication date, 2020 is the archive date. – Teratix ₵ 12:44, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

KZTC-LD

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 10:23, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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KSDY-LD

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 10:21, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Ibrahim Babangida (footballer)

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I've been unable to find if this Nigerian footballer who recently died in a car crash passes WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 10:08, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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He won the 1993 FIFA U-17 World Championship. Don't delete the article. 186.176.235.73 (talk) 11:08, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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List of Little Caesars Pizza Bowl broadcasters

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list that is fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. Of the sources per WP:RS that is neither a YouTube video or a dead link; one is a WP:PRIMARY of one of the teams, three of the ESPN articles is about the Bowl or BCS games, not exclusive to this and the rest is about the games itself with the broadcasting element being given a passing mention. The rest is about the games itself, far less for the broadcasting of this game. None of these are doing anything at all to help assert notability of lists like this. All the others are unsourced. SpacedFarmer (talk) 09:53, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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List of Liberty Bowl broadcasters

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list that is fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. Of the sources per WP:RS; besides a YouTube and a dead link, one is a WP:PRIMARY of one of the teams, one needs a Flash reader and thus inactive. Of the news scans, one is about the game itself, one is an announcment and one redirects to the home page. None of these are doing anything at all to help assert notability of lists like this. All the others are unsourced. SpacedFarmer (talk) 09:46, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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List of Alamo Bowl broadcasters

List of Alamo Bowl broadcasters (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list that is fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. Of the sources per WP:RS, barring five Wikipedia articles; two duplicate source is about the BCS game itself, not just this. One is about the Bowl games itself, one is about the coverage of the Bowl games and the rest about the game itself with the goverage being given a passing mention. None of these are doing anything at all to help assert notability of lists like this. All the others are unsourced. SpacedFarmer (talk) 09:27, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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List of Armed Forces Bowl broadcasters

List of Armed Forces Bowl broadcasters (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list that is fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. Of the sources per WP:RS; one is a dead link; four (a duplicate source of two articles), is about the BCS game in general, not just the broadcasting of this and one has a brief info about TV information and five of those (a single source), although a WP:PRIMARY, now a dead link. None of these are doing anything at all to help assert notability of lists like this. All the others are unsourced. SpacedFarmer (talk) 09:21, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Joyce Namirimo Tamale

Joyce Namirimo Tamale (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Non-notable businessperson, fails WP:BIO and WP:GNG. A WP:BEFORE search turns up only the interview in the ACCA house magazine cited here, the rest is only passing mentions. Her honorary doctorate is from the "Swiss School of Business and Management", which appears to be a degree mill, since it's not listed in the Swiss Accreditation Council's website. Article was moved to draft, submitted without improvement today, then copypasted to main space four minutes later. Wikishovel (talk) 09:20, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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List of Holiday Bowl broadcasters

List of Holiday Bowl broadcasters (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list that is fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. Of the sources per WP:RS; is about a switch from ESPN, which should be in an article about the game itself, not a list of broadcasters. Additionally, one is a YouTube video, one is about the BCS coverages in general, not just this and though all of those are about the games itself, the broadcasting gets a passing mention. The rest is about the games itself, far less for the broadcasting of this game. None of these are doing anything at all to help assert notability of lists like this. All the others are unsourced. SpacedFarmer (talk) 09:10, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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  Comment You might as well mention relevant AfDs proposed that can seen on Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/American football

  This is no part in trying to minimize your efforts but more so hope the effort is unionized across the board. I want to imagine alternatives to deletion are possible before a deletion is ruled out. A redirect back to the relevant bowl could suffice. – The Grid (talk) 13:25, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

List of Independence Bowl broadcasters

List of Independence Bowl broadcasters (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list that is fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. Of the sources per WP:RS; one is a 404, one are announcments of the BCS coverages, not just this. The rest is about the games itself, far less for the broadcasting of this game. None of these are doing anything at all to help assert notability of lists like this. All the others are unsourced. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:57, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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List of Fiesta Bowl broadcasters

List of Fiesta Bowl broadcasters (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list that is fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. Of the sources per WP:RS; one is about the BCS games in general, not just this, one is a 403, three of those talk about the BCS and Bowl games in general one is a TV schedule listing and one is about one of the announcers in general, not the boradcasting of this game. None of these are doing anything at all to help assert notability of lists like this. All the others are unsourced. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:51, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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List of Gasparilla Bowl broadcasters

List of Gasparilla Bowl broadcasters (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list that is fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. Of the sources per WP:RS, this game gets a brief mention, the rest are TV schedules. In all, not doing anything at all to help assert notability of lists like this. All the others are unsourced. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:40, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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List of First Responder Bowl broadcasters

List of First Responder Bowl broadcasters (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list that is fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. Of the sources per WP:RS, two of those are blogspot posts. Of the four ESPN press releases, two of those are TV schedule listings, two of those is about the 34 Bowl games, not just this which gets a brief mention. In all, not doing anything at all to help assert notability of lists like this. All the rest are unsourced. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:31, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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List of Hawaii Bowl broadcasters

List of Hawaii Bowl broadcasters (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list that is fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. Of the sources per WP:RS; as with the ESPN sources, one redirects to the main page whilst the other is a 403. The other two are news report of the game itself, so not doing much to assert notability, which is used to argue about the notability of lists like this. One is a YouTube video, the one of a local paper leads to an error message. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Sewerslvt

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Fails WP:NMUSIC and WP:GNG, barely any reliable sources online. Sources used in the article may not be reliable, especially excessive use of Discogs. Toadette^Edit! 08:02, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Draftify: This was very recently moved from draft. Obviously this was premature. UtherSRG (talk) 13:20, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Victor Carlstrom (whistleblower)

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Only sources are a column and two citations of a deprecated source. WP:BEFORE only returns similar, unreliable, sources. Does not meet WP:GNG or WP:NBIO. AlexandraAVX (talk) 07:55, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete. I looked through the main Swedish news archive to try to find good sources to save this article, but only found a press release. //Julle (talk) 13:21, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Mjölby Turabdin FC

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Expanding on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Srbija FF, I don't see this low-level Swedish football club meeting GNG. Modest history peaking on the 6th tier. Geschichte (talk) 07:01, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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BK Saturnus

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Expanding on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Srbija FF, I don't see this low-level Swedish football club meeting GNG. Modest history peaking on the 5th tier. Geschichte (talk) 07:01, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Norrköpings IF Bosna

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Expanding on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Srbija FF, I don't see this low-level Swedish football club meeting GNG. Modest history peaking on the 5th tier. Geschichte (talk) 06:59, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Blue Hill KF

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Expanding on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Srbija FF, I don't see this low-level Swedish football club meeting GNG. Modest history peaking on the 6th tier. Geschichte (talk) 06:58, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Major League Hockey

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Does not pass WP:GNG. The only reliable source I can find is this, but all the rest are just unreliable outlets. Toadette^Edit! 06:41, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nomination, all I could find online about this proposed league is social media and blogs posts. This source, the only inline reference in the article at the moment, is a press release posted to Mega Marine Ship Machinery Parts in Gujarat, India, suggesting undisclosed paid editing. Wikishovel (talk) 07:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
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Richard L. Albert

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Lacks significant coverage, though his company Design Projects is an extremely generic name. No possible redirect as his company does not have an article. He seems to have worked mostly on B movies. —Kaliforniyka^Hi! 01:55, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

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Design Projects Incorporated was formed on February 10, 1978 in California, (see https://bizfileonline.sos.ca.gov/search/business) and was closed on June 1, 1994.

Design Projects first client was Universal Pictures, and also did advertising, design and packaging for 20th Century Fox, Warner Home Video, Columbia Pictures, as well as international distributors, starting with Best International Films and Producers Sales Organizations, and including Goldcrest and ad campaigns for Sanrio Films while they had a Los Angeles branch office.

It also created ad campaigns for many independent film distributors, such as Group One, New World, Film Ventures International. We also

Prior to 1978, I worked as a freelance designer for Universal Pictures, Filmways, as well as Universal Music.

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Haplotype 35

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Unsourced since 2011, notability unclear. jengod (talk) 06:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Sohaib Al-Malkawi

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Does not meet WP:NJOURNALIST. Couldn't find any articles or independent information about him online. The article is mostly puffery. Probably a COI - draftifying might be an alternative, though I can't find any coverage about him at all. Clearfrienda ^💬 02:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

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Delete: It is full on a promotional article, and if no sources can be found it should be axed. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 03:26, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Comment: I didn't want to write here since I wrote the article. Anyway, I wanted to draw attention to the fact that since he's an Arabic figure when you search for him in Arabic (صهيب ملكاوي), you will find many sources. From a promotional standpoint, I admit that the article contains some promotional words, which I have now deleted. In terms of notability, I see that he fulfills the first rule. He is seen as an important figure or widely cited by his peers or successors. This is an interview of his on YouTube that shows it, and here's another one. According to RanksArabia, a website that ranks according to the votes of the Arab public, Suhaib Al-Malkawi is ranked 30th among the best Arab media professionals, and 24th among the best broadcasters and program presenters on Al Jazeera. He is one of the most prominent broadcasters on a channel considered to be one of the largest channels in the Arab world. Clearfrienda mentioned that "Probably a COI" . This is a bad assumption. For some time now, I have been writing and contributing articles about important Arabic figures, poems, places... etc, here in the encyclopedia, there is a similarity with the family names. Malkawi99 (talk) 05:39, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Rusty Fein

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:55, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Aida Rybalko

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:54, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Leigh Rogers

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:53, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Devora Radeva

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:52, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Candice Towler-Green

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:51, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Hirofumi Torii

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:51, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep This user has nominated 49 different figure skaters for deletion within approximately 30 mins which leaves me doubting that a WP:BEFORE search has been conducted, let alone one that includes native language sources. DCsansei (talk) 12:58, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Dean Timmins

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:50, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Dominika Polakowska

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:49, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Tatsuya Tanaka (figure skater)

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:49, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Charissa Tansomboon

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:48, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Jacqueline Voll

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:47, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Wang Qingyun

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:47, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Aleksandr Anichenko

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:46, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Pierre-Loup Bouquet

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:45, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Fyodor Chernozubov

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No sources and I have been unable to find any. Also does not appear to meet WP:GNG. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 02:45, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Elliot Pennington

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:45, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Eric Saucke-Lacelle

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:44, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Hayley Anne Sacks

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:43, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Kamil Białas

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:42, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Marta Paoletti

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:41, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Isabella Pajardi

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:41, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Michael Novales

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:40, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Emily Naphtal

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:39, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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George Braakman

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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William Nagle (figure skater)

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Danny Moir

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:37, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Natalia Mitsuoka

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:36, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Siobhan McColl

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:35, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Olivia Nicole Martins

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:35, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Alexandra Maksimova

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:34, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Krzysztof Komosa

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:34, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Akiko Kitamura

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:33, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Yevhen Kholoniuk

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:32, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Wang Meng (figure skater)

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:31, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Eliot Halverson

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:31, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Lee Chu-hong

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Lee Sun-bin (figure skater)

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:29, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Magdalena Leska

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:29, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Kevin Maguire (figure skater)

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:28, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Johanna Purdy

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:27, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Alexandr Levintsov

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:27, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Kristine Y. Lee

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:26, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Veronika Kropotina

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:25, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Aneta Kowalska

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:24, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Zsolt Kosz

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:24, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Takuya Kondoh

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:23, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Hirokazu Kobayashi (figure skater)

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:22, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Sarah-Marine Rouffanche

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:21, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Lauren Senft

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:20, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Alistair Sylvester

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:20, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Super Magick

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Found no signs of notability (some notable publications covered the announcement/lead single but it's not exactly NMUSIC#1 level) and redirected. That's been undone, so now we're here. Got a response on my talk page including "That's an actual published album by a known rock band that has been producing albums for decades"; just wanna emphasize NOTINHERITED here in case they or anyone else is thinking of bringing that up. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 01:31, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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The St. Louis Post Dispatch wrote that it was “finally” available, meaning it was anticipated and notable. Repeating that several notable publications did write about it as well.

This group has released several singles that don’t need their own pages, several live albums that don’t need their own page. However, this album was released on various media and noted in the press. This is a notable article, and sits alongside other albums in their discography, for informational and educational purposes.

I would like to note that people come to Wikipedia to find information, and undoubtedly will look for this album’s information. Deleting the page does not serve users’ interests at all. Louie Mantia (talk) 01:43, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Or "finally" just means "after a long time", and it has been a decade since their last album. And even if that were a good sign for notability, the piece is mostly an interview in which the writer only really says the same things about the album that the announcements cover, including the 93x "article" which is stated at the bottom as a press release from Frankly Media. The Riff review is good, but it's still not enough, and I know there's nothing else because I already looked and saw all of what you've added but that was it, hence why I redirected in the first place.

I already brought up NOTINHERITED because it was clearly necessary to mention, but I didn't realize I would need to point out multiple other sections of that page as well, namely WP:INTERESTING, WP:USEFUL, and WP:ABOUTEVERYTHING which pretty much all came up in your case just now. And if users are "undoubtedly" looking for this info, it can always be added to the band's page where I sent the redirect and readers will find it there just fine and be satisfied. I'll even support that as a merge argument if you're on board for it. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 02:03, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

The reason this article was nominated for deletion was there were “no signs of notability.”

After that, it was immediately noted by you (QuietHere) that there were some notable publications. There is also at least one notable review, from Riff Magazine. I think we can safely say that “no signs of notability” is an inaccurate assessment. An argument can be made that there are “few” (by what measure?), but I think “none” would be too far.

I think these few sources specifically address the requirement to prove it is notable, but as @Oaktree b also pointed out, it may be too soon, as the album was released only a week ago. It’s possible more will come up, but as of this moment, it does seem to me that there are valid, suitable sources already cited in the article.

Entirely separate from my argument and unrelated to the bit about deletion, I am a bit hurt by the condescending tone you’ve (QuietHere) brought to this, notably “in case they or anyone else is thinking of bringing that up” and “I didn't realize I would need to point out multiple other sections of that page as well,” both of which imply some level of superiority, which I think is just hurtful and not constructive for this discussion. I think your argument can be made without that. Louie Mantia (talk) 12:06, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

• Weak keep: Also found this in the Tennessean [8] which is an interview with the singer, but talks about the album. With the American Songwriter article, just barely enough. Is likely TOOSOON as the album was released on the 3rd of May, more might pop up. Oaktree b (talk) 04:08, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

  I looked at this Riff Magazine link [9], it's not listed as a RS in Wiki Project album, but it seems ok. Another interview where they also talk about the album. Oaktree b (talk) 04:10, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Software industry in Madurai

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I don't see a reason why this article should exist -- none of the sources (that aren't broken) talk about the software industry in Madurai as a broader trend. This failed a PROD for being potentially notable, but absent any evidence to support that potential, I think this article should be deleted. HyperAccelerated (talk) 01:26, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete: Subject does not meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of in depth, significant coverage. Let'srun (talk) 18:22, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

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Isaac Spackman

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Fails notability guidelines and has no significant coverage. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 01:03, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Grigori Chernozubov

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Clearly fails notability guidelines, no significant coverage. No reason for this article. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 00:47, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Comment: The page on Russian Wikipedia seems to be more in-depth and has more sources. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 10:13, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

There is still no notability, and one "brief" biography isn't really enough to build an entire article.

Kingsmasher678 (talk) 13:00, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Gong Mun-chol

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 00:31, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Kang Kuk-chol (footballer, born 1999)

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 00:28, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete as I am unable to find enough coverage to meet WP:GNG. Ping me if sources are found. JTtheOG (talk) 07:17, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
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Kang Jong-chol

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 00:26, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Kang Hyun-su

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 00:21, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete – Corresponding article on Korean Wikipedia is an unsourced stub. Clara A. Djalim (talk) 09:28, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
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Jang Phyong-il

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 00:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Delete: per nomination, also fails WP:NSPORT. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 01:10, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Yuno Miles

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as much as i love yuno, the only reliable source that talks about him is this, which makes him not notable Authenyo (talk) 00:13, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

i typed this crying knowing that big wikipedia will delete yuno miles Authenyo (talk) 00:49, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

He is notable in my opinion; while I am not a fan of his music he does have almost 1 million followers on spotify and has been drawn even further into the public eye by his Drake diss. OJSimpsonLover (talk) 03:42, 10 May 2024 (UTC) User blocked for vandalism. Air on White (talk) 05:42, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

• Delete: This is a RS per Project Album [10], but that's all I can find for this person. No interviews or articles about him, was hoping something would show up. A lack of sourcing means !delete. Oaktree b (talk) 04:16, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

  I have found a few sources - maybe look a little harder 2601:449:4100:DA80:E549:EA16:3F2E:1D57 (talk) 04:28, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

  So... could you link them here? Tollens (talk) 05:28, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Source assessment table:
Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
https://www.sportskeeda.com/us/music/news-who-yuno-miles-fans-react-youtuber-releases-hilarious-drake-diss-response-metro-boomin-s-challenge		WP:RSP: user-generated		✘ No
https://www.rapreviews.com/2023/11/yuno-miles-yuno-i-cant-rap/				✔ Yes
https://www.sescoops.com/wwe/rapper-yuno-miles-releases-wwe-diss-track-im-beefing-with-the-wwe		Probably, website has multiple writers and this one has a degree		✔ Yes
https://pitchfork.com/features/article/the-age-of-shitpost-modernism/			One example with only one mention	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

• Here's a table. I don't think two is enough, is it? Aaron Liu (talk) 11:49, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Hayleigh Bell

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:12, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Meyer Ryshpan

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NBIO. Sources are user-generated, primary sources or trivial coverage (the phone book??). BEFORE search turns up no other evidence of notability as an artist or generally. Dclemens1971 (talk) 00:11, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

• Delete: Very trivial coverage found [11]. No listing in the Getty ULAN [12], the artist hasn't gained critical recognition, with no sourcing in Gscholar found... The person existed, but that's not what we're looking for in a notability guideline. Oaktree b (talk) 04:21, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
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Files

File:VINCE COLLETTA PAINTING BY ROMEO TANGHAL SR.jpg

File:VINCE COLLETTA PAINTING BY ROMEO TANGHAL SR.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Franklin222 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Evidence of permission from the artist is needed. Image is not used anywhere. Ixfd64 (talk) 00:33, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Here is Mr. Tanghal's email response to my asking for permission to use the painting of my father, Vince Colletta.

romeo tanghal <tanghalromeosr at yahoo.com>

Tue, May 16, 2023, 11:53 AM

to me

Hey Frankie,

Yeah, it's OK to post.

Romeo Tanghal Sr. Franklin222 (talk) 01:10, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

@Franklin222: Please follow the instructions at c:Commons:Volunteer Response Team and have the artist forward their correspondence to the VRT. Ixfd64 (talk) 04:55, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

File:Ethnic Composition of the Armed Forces in Burma, 1931.jpg

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Nominated for speedy deletion by Battlesnake1 with the reason: "Replaced with table in the Karen conflict article". Wikiacc (¶) 01:58, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

File:Aoid2.png

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Substantially similar to standard cover, no need for more non-free media. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:42, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

File:Ratboys AOID alternate cassette cover.png

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Substantially similar to standard cover, no need for more non-free media. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:42, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

For this file and the one above, am I right in thinking that from the non-free content criteria (WP:NFCCP), the one that would be violated here is 3a: "Multiple items of non-free content are not used if one item can convey equivalent significant information"? Or 8: "Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic"?

(I am uploader of the files, but I'm trying to be unbiased here - I am new and still learning!) GanzKnusper (talk) 08:52, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

File:TresHanley2007.jpg

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Orphan image, article where the image was used, was deleted recently: (WP:Articles for deletion/Trés Hanley). Delete per WP:NOTFILESTORAGE. Mika1h (talk) 09:16, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Categories

Category:Nance Family

• Propose deleting Category:Nance Family (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Only three entries and no others to add. Not necessary to have a family category when this is the most there will ever be in it. SportsGuy789 (talk) 04:41, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:14th-century French Sephardi Jews

• Propose merging Category:14th-century French Sephardi Jews to Category:French Sephardi Jews and Category:14th-century French Jews and Category:14th-century Sephardi Jews
• Propose merging Category:13th-century French Sephardi Jews to Category:French Sephardi Jews and Category:13th-century French Jews and Category:13th-century Sephardi Jews

Nominator's rationale: 3x upmerge for now. It's not helpful for navigation to diffuse 14th/13th century sephardi jews by nationality when theres only one or two people in the category Mason (talk) 01:07, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

• Just delete, one article is about a Jew who wasn't Sephardi, the other about an ex-Jew who wasn't French. Generally the concept of French Sephardi Jews does not make much sense before 1492 (Alhambra Decree). Marcocapelle (talk) 03:52, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Redirects

M.

• M. → Monsieur  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

English Wikipedia is not so closely affiliated with the French language that a single punctuated letter "M" should redirect to an article on a French word, rather than to the disambiguation page, M (disambiguation), which lists other things that might be punctuated. Retarget to M (disambiguation). BD2412 T 13:12, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Pokédex (Sinnoh)

• Pokédex (Sinnoh) → Gameplay of Pokémon#Pokédex  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

retarget to the list of gen 4 pokémon? cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 19:00, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Comment The Sinnoh Pokédex doesn't only include Gen 4 pokémon, but it isn't unlikely that someone would be looking for these specifically when typing it. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 20:22, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

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98.0 FM (disambiguation)

• 98.0 FM (disambiguation) → 98.0 FM  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• 98.1 FM (disambiguation) → 98.1 FM  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• 98.2 FM (disambiguation) → 98.2 FM  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• 98.3 FM (disambiguation) → 98.3 FM  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• 98.4 FM (disambiguation) → 98.4 FM  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• 98.5 FM (disambiguation) → 98.5 FM  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• 98.6 FM (disambiguation) → 98.6 FM  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• 98.7 FM (disambiguation) → 98.7 FM  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• 98.9 FM (disambiguation) → 98.9 FM  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• 99.1 FM (disambiguation) → 99.1 FM  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• 99.7 FM (disambiguation) → 99.7 FM  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• 99.9 FM (disambiguation) → 99.9 FM  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete these redirects, because whilst the targets of these redirects list radio stations that broadcast the respective frequencies, they are not disambiguation pages, or pages that disambiguate articles that might otherwise be called e,g. "99.9 FM" (i.e. they are not disambiguation-like pages). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:39, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:FLUFF

• Wikipedia:FLUFF → Wikipedia:Wikipuffery  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Wikipedia:Fluff → Wikipedia:Wikipuffery  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Should have the same target as MOS:PUFFERY. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 17:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

• Keep per WP:AINTBROKE. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 18:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

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• It is "broke", per the outcome of Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 25#Wikipedia:PUFF. Whether or not fluff is associated with the manual of style is the question, as it would be more helpful to point to a policy page rather than a user essay if it does. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 19:30, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
• Keep. The essay reads to me like a combination of MOS:PUFFERY and WP:RELEVANCE, WP:BLOATED, WP:FART or other explanations related to WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Looking through the internal links (there aren't many), I can see people using it to refer to these ideas and not just language-use as seen at MOS:PUFFERY. As a note: there was an 11 y/o redlink that got filled out by this redirect (~8 years ahead of the WP:FLUFF's creation) and the target makes sense in the context of that discussion. Seems intuitive based on that and useful enough. ― Synpath 01:16, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

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Constitution of Taiwan

• Constitution of Taiwan → Additional Articles of the Constitution of the Republic of China  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Propose reverting target to Constitution of the Republic of China. I know there is a hatnote, but not sure why it was boldly retargeted. All references to "Constitution of Taiwan" in reliable sources I could find were referring to the original document, not any amendments unless explicitly stated. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 07:02, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

2016 Swedish Football Division 2

• 2016 Swedish Football Division 2 → Division 2 (Swedish football)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The target article gives no information whatsoever on the 2016 season of the Division 2. It was created "as to avoid redlink at 2015 Swedish Football Division 1 article", which is not a good reason, since a red link would do no harm at 2015 Swedish Football Division 1, and could lead to an actual article being created about the 2016 Swedish Football Division 2. The redirect inhibits that. Geschichte (talk) 06:55, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Coutroom

• Coutroom → Courtroom  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This redirect has an error in the title Мункач Варош (talk) 06:52, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

• Keep, harmless and has been around since 2005. Geschichte (talk) 06:56, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

KEEP Plausible error Okmrman (talk) 13:30, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

WP:BRRRD

• Wikipedia:BRRRD → Wikipedia:Edit warring  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Wikipedia:BRRRRRD → Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

These two have similar names, but redirect to different pages. I'm unsure what these should redirect to, but I'm leaning towards a retarget both to Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle#Edit warring. mwwv(converse) 17:33, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

• Delete both - unnecessary joke shortcuts with ambiguous targets. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 14:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Retarget or delete?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 03:53, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

• Keep both - They're harmless and currently being used by a handful of users each on talk pages. No need to break it for them. If REALLY necessary (and it isn't) I don't object to retargeting both to Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle#Edit warring, but it just doesn't seem necessary. Redirects are WP:CHEAP, and these are and have been useful to someone. It's not a harmful or ambiguous thing, it's not going to effect normal users, no one is going to search for these... yeah, these may be jocular, but they can make a useful rhetorical point. Again, while there was no real need to create them in the first place, there's no harm in having them either. Fieari (talk) 07:30, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

XJP

• XJP → Xi Jinping  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Wikipedia:GLOBAL，When "XJP" comes to my mind, I'd like to think of it as "Xi JinPing", "Singapore" (the abbre. Roman spell of 新加坡), and "X Japan". I feel confused of whether "XJP" could be an appropriate redirection or not, so I'd like to start a discussion about it. Sinsyuan✍️🌏🚀 02:21, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Templates and Modules

Template:Immigration sidebar

• Template:Immigration sidebar (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

A template with no meaningful content, yet may not be suitable for CSD. ときさき くるみ ^{not because they are easy, but because they are hard} 05:57, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

@Randy Kryn Appears to have broken this in Special:diff/1212752126, where they replaced all the sidebar parameters with "list" parameters for some reason? 86.23.109.101 (talk) 09:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

It seems to have been moved/merged to the navigational box {{Immigration}}, and after that the sidebar template is deprecated. There's certainly a possibility of rescue. ときさき くるみ ^{not because they are easy, but because they are hard} 10:39, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

The problem has nothing to do with a merge or depreciation, the templates have always worked like this. {{immigration}} can display either a navbox or a sidebar, depending upon which parameters you pass to it. {{Immigration sidebar}} just calls the sidebar version of {{immigration}}. The sidebar code for {{immigration}} was broken about a month ago for some reason. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 10:51, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping. All I did was revert the last edit, which locked the navbox from opening, to the edit before that one. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:53, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Template:Approx

• Template:Approx (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

According to its doc page, this template exists because the HTML entity ≈ (&approx;) didn't work on WP at some point. Since it works now there's no reason to keep it around anymore. At some point the template also got an abbreviation tooltip if an optional parameter is provided as in ‹See Tfd› ≈. This functionality is very rarely used [13] and is redundant when {{approx.}} exists. The uses of the template that don't use the abbreviation parameter can all be either subst:ed or replaced with the HTML entity without consequence. Nickps (talk) 22:24, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

• Kinddddddddddd of inclined to make this a subst-only template, without the inclusion of the {{abbr}} thing going on. The only pause given is the similarly named {{approx.}} as identified by the nom. But yes, generally tend toward the "we don't generally need a 'living' template" end of the spectrum. Izno (talk) 20:48, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 03:49, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Deletion review

Draft:Kashana Cauley

Draft:Kashana Cauley (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)

This draft was nominated under WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE, and - after the discussion had been open for over a week - it was procedurally closed by a non-admin after their moving of the draft to mainspace. As I mentioned on the closer's talk, I believe that this was a bad close for several reasons:

• I don't believe that it was fair towards the nominator or the discussion's participants for the (reasonably well-attended) MfD to have been procedurally closed based on a move that occurred some time after the discussion had started (in addition, I would question whether it's appropriate to move a draft currently at MfD to mainspace at all, given that this could effectively short-circuit/nullify any discussion that had already taken place). I see this as especially true due to the fact that, in this situation, the same rationale - WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE - applies regardless of the discussion venue.
• Given the split of opinions expressed by editors in the MfD, I believe that this was a WP:BADNAC - i.e., that [t]he outcome [was] a close call...or likely to be controversial, and so the MfD should therefore have been closed by an administrator. (I'd also argue that closing this discussion as procedural close was likely to be controversial in and of itself.)
• The closer was involved with regards to the page in question, having edited the draft and accepted it/moved it to mainspace. I disagree with the closer's assertion that their involvement does not matter...because the close is of a procedural type - there is nothing in WP:PROCEDURAL that excludes such closes from the requirement to be uninvolved, and I don't believe that this is an appropriate situation to IAR.

I therefore believe that the closure should be overturned, and the page moved back to draftspace pending the outcome of the MfD. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 11:29, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

• Endorse own procedural close. The close was a mere recording of an objective fact that the discussed page is no more from the standpoint of MfD. There had been a draft and then the draft was no more, so there's nothing to do in an MfD. That's not a close call or a non-close call, it's not a call. There is no dispute in which I might be involved. The AfC accept was not an outcome of the MfD discussion. The mainspacing comes fist in time and in the logic of things. The close is just a recording an objective fact that came first, indpendently from the MfD. I could, in my independent capacity, and I did, accept the submission because the submission is okay, and that is for an AfC reviewer to decide, not for MfD, as MfD is not a venue to review pending AfC submissions. A running MfD does not suspend AfC, and does not transform drafting from an optional to an obligatory apparatus. Once the move is performed WP:DRAFTOBJECT applies and the only recourse is AfD. I notified the concerned subject at User talk:Blacksun83#Article instructing her to start an AfD if they wish.—Alalch E. 11:42, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Following this logic, if there was an AfD open, and someone unilaterally moved it to draft during the discussion, would that mean that the AfD would need to be procedurally closed as "the discussed page is no more from the standpoint of [AfD]. There had been a[n article] and then the [article] was no more, so there's nothing to do in an [AfD]"? I'm not sure I'm entirely comfortable with unilateral page moves to render a discussion mid-way through moot. Daniel (talk) 12:08, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

    It isn't symmetrical. Drafting is an optional mechanism, subservient to the encyclopedia in the narrower sense (the article space). Article space takes precedence and is where the matter of what pages constitute the encyclopedia gets truly settled. It would not be appropriate to move to draftspace during a running AfD, but it is appropriate to mainspace during a running MfD. MfD discussions about deleting drafts quickly stop making sense when editors in good standing (multiple in this case) start believing that the page should not be a draft but an article. That's generally when MfD should stop and AfD should start. MfDs to delete drafts are for very problematic pages that exist as drafts for which no one thinks they are worthy of article space, and the issue is whether it's sufficiently important and purposeful to delete those drafts before G13 kicks in (often a pretty esoteric question and often useless to even contemplate). When a reasonable AfC submission is made and editors exist who believe that not only should the page not be deleted, but that it should be an article (entirely different from merely not deleting the draft which is independent from the issue of whether that page will ever become an article), that transforms the nature of the dispute: It's not about whether to delete quicker than the natural course of things dictates, it's about whether to have or not to have a particular article in the encyclopedia, which is an issue of article deletion/retention, and is no longer a topical matter in an MfD. —Alalch E. 12:20, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

    Endorse Hi, I am the subject of the article. I became aware that there was a draft about me when I started to be deluged by scammers who wanted me to pay them to rewrite it and get it accepted. It got so bad that I took my publicly available email off the internet, but they still kept coming. I figured I had two options to try and get them to stop contacting me: I could try to get the article deleted, or I could try to get it accepted. Acceptance seemed complicated and less favorable, since I honestly thought the draft should have been accepted in the first place, since my novel was selected for two things: indies introduce and indie next, that are an enormous deal in the book world. So when it was declined, I realized I didn’t know what qualified for wiki acceptance, or even how to go about trying to get acceptance without running afoul of the conflict of interest guidelines. Requesting a deletion seemed like the more straightforward option, so I tried that. I was well aware that I might be deemed notable over the course of the review, since my novel has enjoyed even more of the non-interview, secondary coverage you all prefer here since the first version of the article was submitted. I have looked over the accepted article and think it is accurate, and a fine article to have on Wikipedia. Having an accepted article will also make the scammers who want me to pay to get an article accepted lose interest in emailing me all the time, so it is also, in my opinion, an ok option, and an outcome that fulfills my original goal of defeating the scammers. I obviously cannot speak for all the people involved in the other discussion, and for all I know, if the article is kept an entirely new type of scammer may fall out of the sky, but the outcome of all of this is an article I approve of. Thank you, User talk:Alalch E.. Blacksun83 (talk) 13:33, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

• Procedural close this and start a fresh AfD. WP:BADNAC is there to prevent adjudication by those who don't have the tools, the experience, or the trust of the community to close such discussions. However, in this case, no adjudication was required. The closer merely informed participants that the MfD was now moot, as the closer has already moved the article to mainspace. Yes, it was the same closer who moved the page from draft to mainspace, but they did so rigorously following our AfC guidelines. Since no adjudication was required in the procedural close of the MfD, the issue of WP:INVOLVED is also of no practical bearing. Had Alalch E. accepted the AfC and asked a fellow editor to close the MfD, the result couldn't have been any different. Such an extra step seems redundant, although it's fair to ask whether it should be followed for appearances sake.

Should the AfC have been accepted while the MfD was open? A case could be made for withholding AfC acceptance until the MfD (which was already open for nine days!) was closed, although I don't see any such requirement in our policies. But what would be the benefit of such a delay? Deleting the draft would not create a G4 basis for deleting a subsequent mainspace article anyway. And with sourcing that meets our BLP policy, any editor, including the original author of the draft, would be rightly encouraged to recreate the article for an apparently notable person. Which brings me to my recommendation of withdrawing this DRV, and starting a fresh AfD for the article, ideally notifying all the participants of the MfD. Once deleted in mainspace, recreation will be restricted based on our policies, which is the remedy the appellant and the subject of the article are seeking. Owen× ☎ 12:22, 10 May 2024 (UTC)