Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Kerala

WP:DELSORT/Kerala

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Articles for deletion[edit]

Anil K. Antony[edit]

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Subject fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. Was never elected into a political office that makes one inherently notable TheWikiholic (talk) 18:02, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Similar to other candidates, there is a mass creation of articles for the ongoing General Election in India. Many articles like these have already been deleted. These candidates are just nominated, not elected, and they fail to meet WP:NPOL. The coverage is solely due to their election candidacy, which also fails WP:BLP1E. GrabUp - Talk 15:29, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Clearly failed WP:NPOL. Youknowwhoistheman (talk) 16:26, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

M. L. Ashwini[edit]

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Subject fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. Was never elected into a political office that makes one inherently notable TheWikiholic (talk) 18:07, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete does not pass NPOL and not otherwise notable. Mccapra (talk) 18:29, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Next Kerala Legislative Assembly election[edit]

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WP:NCRYSTAL. Nothing about the election has been declared yet, no WP:RS are currently talking about it. Should be recreated closer to the election, once actual sources start discussing it.

I've found 3 sources for this election, but they're not in depth enough to require the article right now, imo - [1] [2] [3] Soni (talk) 13:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Next elections pass WP:CRYSTAL. I'm not sure what makes this one different. SportingFlyer T·C 23:03, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There will be a number of duplicate comments on this given how 5 different AFDs were based on the same prior consensus (they didn't fall under WP:MULTIAFD by my read). So I'm going to make all general comments about evaluation of NCRYSTAL and similar on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Next Assam Legislative Assembly election instead of replying the same things 5x. I'll keep finding sources or replying about sources in each specific AFD. Soni (talk) 23:48, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Too many of these future prediction pages. WP:TOOSOON. Way down in the future and Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, nor is it a collection of unverifiable content. RangersRus (talk) 11:59, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wars of the Deccan Sultanates[edit]

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Yet another article appears to cover a series of conflicts spanning over a century, which have been amalgamated into many 'wars.' The only source Jaques Tony cited for this title and its prolonged duration does not support the timeline mentioned in the lead and infobox (note that timeline in lead and infobox aren't aligned). This discrepancy creates confusion and suggests a lack of notability. Additionally, the article seems to rely heavily on WP:SYNTH and WP:POVFORK, which is concerning. I hope we don't get to see another non notable 'wars' article spanning centuries or even millennia. Based Kashmiri (talk) 06:19, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, History, Military, Karnataka, and Kerala. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 10:35, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am confused as to why this article has been nominated for deletion. The article adheres to Wikipedia's standards for reliability and notability. The nominator mentioned WP:SYNTH, so they should identify all the self-published sources and unreliable citations in the article that they believe should be removed.Please all those sources here so that we can talk on that easily.

Additionally, the nominator has raised concerns regarding the accuracy of the names and timelines of the wars mentioned in the article.I have already provided a citation for the nomenclature used in the article's headings.Since the article is heavily reliant on multiple sources, it should include references for the commencement and conclusion of the war, forming the timeline of the conflict.Here I have already cited the sources for the timeline too.I can cite the source with quotation to get easily identify the timeline.

Suggestion:-Nominator as well as the reviewers must thoroughly check all the sources.If there is any problem regarding any reference or source or any paragraph requires more Citation,you may assist by adding tags of ^{[citation needed]} for further editing.

Please refer the source "History of the Qutb Shahi Dynasty" authored by H.K. Sherwani.-This source have mentioned the Kemilliogolgi (talk) 07:14, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article doesn't adhere to Wikipedia policies and no you haven't cited any source for this fictional timeline of nearly 200 years simply because there's no source defining such a prolonged timeline. Jaques Tony's source is not enough. You have clearly mixed up every war and conflict between Vijaynagar empire and Deccan sultanates without providing enough sources for its notability and timeline. Based.Kashmiri ^(🗨️) 10:18, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please specify which Wikipedia policies the article is not adhering to. If there are concerns about the timeline, I can provide specific sources with quotations to demonstrate that the article is accurately written, including the correct timeline for the wars. All sources used in the article are non-fiction.

Here i am giving a few sources :

(A)Article mentioned about a war-Cited by

1)Wars of the Deccan Sultanates:[4]pg.XXXIV

2)The end of the Vijayanagar Empire did not, however, mean an end to the wars, for Bijapur and Golconda now began to dispute the division of the spoils.

(B)Doubts regarding the timeline-

1)Tony Jaques mentioned the last battle as battle of talikota 1565,[5]

2)But the war lasted even after 1565- Untill 1673-final conquest[6]pg.33

The final conquest:

In 1672, Abul Hasan Qutb Shah, the last of the Golconda Sultans, ascended the throne. The following year saw the resumption of hostilities between Madurai and Thanjavur. Thanjavur was invaded once again in 1673, and was finally defeated, and the Nayak, Vijayaraghava, was killed[7]pg.33

Note:Vassals are also included in war [8]pg.XV

I hope the nominator will recheck the all sources and will mention all the self published sources cited in the article.As he had referred to WP:SYNTH to give an excuse for the deletion of the article.

If any further doubts-feel free to ask.

Regards!!! Kemilliogolgi (talk) 14:51, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think one source would be enough for the title. No other source other than Jaques Tony calls it "Wars of the Deccan sultanates", that too gives only the timeline of 1520-1565. I still don't get how come you create an article of nearly 200 years war article. And then you cited this source which contradicts other sources and nowhere this source supports your preferred timeline of 1495-1673. You're just cherry picking info from different sources which is what we call WP:SYNTH. Moreover you're quoting a different conflict from the same source which is not even related to the Vijaynagar empire. It's just a synth mess. Based.Kashmiri ^(🗨️) 10:57, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete this article contains many misinformation and not neutral at all. Recently I removed misleading info which is not even in the source.Theophilusbisio (talk) 09:20, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Theophilusbisio I have reverted your edits to the last version of Kemilliogolgi. Please don't remove any content while the deletion discussion is ongoing. Regards. Based.Kashmiri ^(🗨️) 11:36, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kerala Gazetted Officers' Federation[edit]

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Declined prod. A google news search found only 3 sources of routine coverage. Fails WP:ORG and GNG. LibStar (talk) 23:25, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, notable organization. When you say only 3 sources, in which language did you google? Here are some results, [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18], [19], [20], [21], [22] --Soman (talk) 00:47, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
English. Most of the sources you found are local and we need wider coverage as per WP:AUD. I would caution using youtube as a source as per Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources. LibStar (talk) 00:54, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- As I'm sure you are aware, not all news around the world is in English. The sources here include Mathrubhumi which has a readership of 970,000 daily, Asianet (TV channel), Kerala Kaumudi, etc. If you read WP:AUD it literally says " Significant coverage in media with an international, national, or at least regional audience (e.g., the biggest daily newspaper in any US state) is a strong indication of notability." If Kerala was located in the US, it would be the second-most populous state after California. --Soman (talk) 01:12, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:45, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Baker Ninan Fenn[edit]

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Non-notable religious figure. Half of the hits I get from searching for sources (string:"baker ninan fenn") are non-responsive; the other half are useless as sources for Fenn. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 20:42, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Diocesan bishops of major denominations have generally been held to be notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:20, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you point me to a specific policy or discussion that supports that position? Bear in mind WP:BLP also applies here! —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 16:06, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES illustrates the consensus. BLP is irrelevant as to his notability. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:34, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Yakob Elias[edit]

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Non-notable religious figure. Source search (string:"yakob elias") returns nothing. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 20:38, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Diocesan bishops of major denominations have generally been held to be notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:20, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you point me to a specific policy or discussion that supports that position? Bear in mind WP:BLP also applies here! —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 16:06, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES illustrates the consensus. BLP is irrelevant as to his notability. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:35, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Anthonios Yaqu'b[edit]

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Non-notable religious figure; both sources in the article are 404-compliant. Search for sources (string: "anthonios yaqub") turns up nothing. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 20:35, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: The sources have been fixed to not be dead; the first is of unknown authorship and the second doesn't discuss Yaqu'b in depth (though "Yaq'ub" gets name-dropped a fair bit). —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 22:45, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Diocesan bishops of major denominations have generally been held to be notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:21, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you point me to a specific policy or discussion that supports that position? Bear in mind WP:BLP also applies here! —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 16:06, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES illustrates the consensus. BLP is irrelevant as to his notability. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:35, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:35, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Abraham Julios[edit]

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Non-notable religious figure. Google search (string:"abraham julios") turns up barely anything, and the lot of it is unusable as sources. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 20:32, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Diocesan bishops of major denominations have generally been held to be notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:21, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you point me to a specific policy or discussion that supports that position? Bear in mind WP:BLP also applies here! —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 16:05, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES illustrates the consensus. BLP is irrelevant as to his notability. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:35, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:36, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mathew Moolakkatt[edit]

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Non-notable religious figure. The only sources I can find that discuss him at length (string: "Mathew Moolakkatt") are tied to a controversy and legal case about Catholic marriage practises. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 20:28, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Diocesan bishops of major denominations have generally been held to be notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:21, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you point me to a specific policy or discussion that supports that position? Bear in mind WP:BLP also applies here! —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 16:05, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES illustrates the consensus. BLP is irrelevant as to his notability. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:35, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:38, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Koorilos[edit]

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Non-notable religious figure. Google search (string:"thomas koorilos") turns up no usable sources what-so-ever, mainly profiles and name-drops. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 20:16, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Diocesan bishops of major denominations have generally been held to be notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:22, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you point me to a specific policy or discussion that supports that position? Bear in mind WP:BLP also applies here! —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 16:04, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES illustrates the consensus. BLP is irrelevant as to his notability. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:35, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
BLP is, however, relevant to what sort of content the article can have. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 15:28, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:42, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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