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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was marked {{inactive}}. No need for an MFD. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 20:16, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Awards and prizes[edit]

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There have been no responses to any inquiries on the project talk page in 2011. The project should be marked as {{inactive}}. TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:43, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ADDENDUM according to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Directory/WikiProject#When_is_a_project_inactive.3F the proper way to pursue inactive status is through WP:MFD.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:14, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. Maybe I misread this earlier. How do I pursue making a project inactive?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:20, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Some WP:XFD processes, such as WP:CFD include discussions to rename and merge as on point. I thought for a WikiProject a discussion to mark as inactive might be appropriate. The objective is not to delete, much like at CFD the point might be to rename, the objective is to mark as inactive.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:28, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The best way to get a project marked inactive is to be bold and just tag it with {{inactive}}. There's no need for a discussion. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 02:44, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Tony, please explain to me how "the nominator wants to mark it as inactive" is a matter for Miscellany for deletion? Ironholds (talk) 01:19, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Speedy Keep as this group should be marked as {{inactive}}, not deleted. This discussion shouldn't exist. While activity is somewhat slow on the project, there have been people who recently joined it and recent posts (within the last month or so, outside of the notification for this discussion) on the project talk page. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 01:55, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Note that according to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Directory/WikiProject#When_is_a_project_inactive.3F the proper way to pursue inactive status is through WP:MFD.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:14, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • That information is not policy or even accepted guideline. If a project is inactive (no activity for an extended period such as 6mos or so), tag it with {{inactive}}. The only time a project should be deleted is if it was a half-baked idea and never really got off the ground. This is obvious when the project pages are incomplete and haven;t been worked on for an extended period of time. Projects which have had activity should never be deleted, but rather marked inactive after the time frame mentioned above, and then tagged historical if they continue to be inactive for another similar time period. We are not short on space here, and there's no reason to remove the project when it may help someone who comes along later who was unaware of the previous project. It may even help them get things going in the project again. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 02:44, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
        • The original goal was to pursue consensus to mark inactive. Can that discussion be held here or does one have to unilaterally tag it? There was never an intention to delete or even discuss the topic.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:16, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
          • We can certainly discuss it here since we are already here, but the whole point of MfD is to discuss whether something should be deleted or not. Yes, sometimes the decision is to tag as inactive or something along those lines, but this area is not for discussion whether that should happen, but rather for whether something should be deleted entirely from Wikipedia. Hence "Miscellany for deletion". In this case, it's perfectly find to be bold and tag it as inactive. If someone objects to that, it can be discussed on the talk page of the project. It looks like the general consensus here from those participating (including you) is that the project shouldn't be deleted, so perhaps someone will come along and snow close it. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 17:32, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "There was never an intention to delete or even discuss the topic" - then don't bring it to MfD. Close the MfD, take up the discussion on the talkpage. Ironholds (talk) 03:33, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: the project has input and history I still use. Rather mark it as inactive as indicated by User:Nihonjoe if you like. I will probably become an active member in the near future if I gain enough experience. And it would be a pity to start all over again. -- SchreyP (messages) 09:10, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, and consider tagging {{inactive}}. Full sympathy for TonyTheTiger who I guess has encountered a feeling of absurdity in running an inactive WikiProject. http://stats.grok.se/en/latest/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Awards_and_prizes tells me Wikipedia:WikiProject_Awards_and_prizes has been viewed 288 times in the last 30 days, so there is some evidence of interest. Sorry Tony for the response you got here, it's us, not you. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:38, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep For reasons stated above I think we should keep it. Marking it is sufficient. Esuzu (talk) 12:01, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep --Another Believer (Talk) 17:16, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and mark inactive per Nihonjoe's reasoning above. JJ98 (Talk / Contributions) 21:08, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.


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