Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Windblade

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The result was keep. Tone 08:33, 19 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Windblade[edit]

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Non-notable fictional character TTN (talk) 17:17, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. TTN (talk) 17:17, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. TTN (talk) 17:17, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Probably the most interesting Transformers AfD I bothered looking at... I didn't even know this was a Transformer since it wasn't in the title like most others, but clicking the link to see, I found it was a female transformer. I haven't paid attention to Transformers for probably over 25 years now, but surely that's notable, I thought. Sure enough, it does seem to be notable. A simple Google search revealed a bunch of news back when the character was created covering both the creation, controversy, and praise for the concept.
A USA Today article, one Mary Sue article is already linked and then here is a review from them, there was a Comics Alliance article/interview because of the creation, and there are at least 27 critics that have written about the comic (thanks, Comic Book Roundup). That's already two or more GNG sources equating to multiple, so I'm not going to look any further.
Notability is not in question. The article should be improved not deleted. WP:NEXIST in the WP Notability test says that the sources only need to exist, not be present in the article. Incorporating them will strengthen the article, but that can be done over time. -2pou (talk) 22:48, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to The Transformers: Windblade. It's better to put the character in context of the actually notable work rather than have a standalone, fancrufty article on her. All the mentioned sources are arguably about the actual comic book in question._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 03:39, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment After further looking at the term, I think that the name should also be made a disambiguation, rather than a redirect, due to the existence of Wind Blade._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 09:47, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, surprisingly enough, largely due to the pretty extensive write-ups the character received in USA Today and The Mary Sue. However, the article does need to be pretty much re-written entirely, to actually be about the notable aspects of the character that were covered in reliable secondary sources (the circumstances of her creation, the fan backlash, etc.) rather than the current mountain of un-sourced plot summary and toy catalog information. I actually do agree with Zxcvbnm's suggestion for a merger with the article on the comics, however I think it should be done in reverse - the comics' article should be redirected here. From what I can gather, there were actually a couple different comics with the same name, and it would make more sense, to me, to briefly cover them all in the overall article on the starring character, rather than vice verse. A hatnote can be added to this page to help direct readers looking for information on the Wind Blade. Rorshacma (talk) 18:11, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Windblade, and merge The Transformers: Windblade into it (maybe just redirect, considering how bare bones it is). There's coverage to support a good article, and the character encompasses the comic series. Argento Surfer (talk) 19:42, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: to discuss any possible mergers
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 07:06, 12 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and rewrite. Notable. Lightburst (talk) 01:33, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep,Needs some work but is notable. Alex-h (talk) 10:01, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep / merge with The Transformers: Windblade. USAT article is not bad. Mary Sue is good except it is a niche outlet, not much better than a blog. I think that's borderline, but merger with The Transformers: Windblade miniseries may be the best idea. Right now the character looks more notable than the series (review links, anyone?). One more source for WB: [1]; kotaku.com is a relatively major sf news site, so it's a decent source. That's probably enough to push it into the few notable transformers that can survive the current articlecide in this area :) PS. But the article needs a major writeup, remove most fancruft, add section on reception... --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:19, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Should be rewritten, subject is notable. FitIndia ^{Talk Commons} 15:24, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.