Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lost in the Game (film)

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The result was redirect‎ to MC Ren#Film career. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:20, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lost in the Game (film)[edit]

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There is scant evidence that this film exists. The only reference is to an article from a questionable source, which was written after this Wikipedia article was created and, as it only wrote one short paragraph, could have easily been copied from the article itself. Looking at Google results, I cannot find anyone who says that they've seen the film or any coverage from when it was allegedly released in 2005. I found a screenshot of the alleged DVD cover, which has different credits from in the article. The other actors listed don't seem to have any content on them online. As MC Ren was a member of N.W.A, it seems unlikely to me that this film would have been released with such little attention, which makes me suspicious that this is a hoax. As it's hard to prove a hoax, I'll settle for now for saying that there are no good sources for this and it should be deleted. Epa101 (talk) 13:34, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Epa101 (talk) 13:40, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 14:02, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 14:02, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect this and also that with this source or that one (or both), to MC Ren#Film career, where it is mentioned but with no source. Delete. See below. Happy to change my mind if sources are presented.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 15:06, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do you think that your first source is reliable? I couldn't find a year of publication anywhere. If it's a self-published e-book from recent years, I wouldn't be surprised if it's done a lot of its research on Wikipedia. Epa101 (talk) 22:41, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that may well be the case. Let's discard it. That leaves us with Bustle, which is, I guess, generally reliable but the quality of the article and the fact that there's only that available (that I could find and if I didn't search that hard, I searched) is indeed suspicious. We could contact Allie Funk at Bustle? And ask if, by any chance, when she wrote her article in August 2015 she didn't base it on WP... As for the soundtrack, you might want to check this. (YouTube (Warning: strong language) (obviously but I feel I have to mention it if others wish to open this) (really not conclusive but uses the same cover) The authors of the 2 WP articles (film (2014), soundtrack (June 2015)) are apparently different but both seem to have an interest in MC Ren (obviously), and the person who inserted the info in the MC Ren page is a 3d one. I don't want to suspect anyone unduly but yes, you're right, it's odd. I'll be cautious and !vote Delete. Maybe see with the Commons users who uploaded the files for the CD and DVD? If it's a hoax, it's "excellent work." Not that elementary....Best. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 01:22, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I listened more carefully to the 1st song (other Youtube links show the film poster (#1Hood Movie of the Year)). The 1st song is indeed titled "Lost in the Game". (I'd say there's a pretty good chance this is real) The tracks do correspond to what the article about the soundtrack says, titles, duration, 27 min of music (for a 60 min film, that could make sense). -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 01:33, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

False alarm, I think, the DVD exists on the usual websites. So I am going to re!vote Redirect this and also that with the Bustle source [1] to MC Ren#Film career, where it is mentioned since 2006 but with no source. I apologise for the trouble.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 06:17, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 01:15, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry that I've been absent for a few days. I have been busy elsewhere. I'm happy with the suggestion by @Mushy Yank that we redirect it to MC Ren#Film career. Some good research on YouTube too. Epa101 (talk) 20:12, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 09:39, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 02:49, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to MC Ren. I couldn't find anything about this film except for Ebay listings and this article. Cortador (talk) 07:20, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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