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The result was delete. Star Mississippi 22:37, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All Action Wrestling[edit]

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All Action Wrestling

No references, and so does not satisfy the core content policy of verifiability. Does not explain how any of general notability, corporate notability, or sports notability are satisfied. This article was moved to draft space once by User:Discospinster as inadequately sourced, and moved back to article space with no improvement. A case could be made for A7, but a deletion discussion is a better idea. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:54, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as per nom, in particular because as he has noted, it was moved to draftspace for being unsourced, and still remains unsourced, and now back in mainspace. Deathlibrarian (talk) 06:02, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 08:25, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete or speedy move back to Draft. Not main space ready in multiple ways. Aoziwe (talk) 10:47, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails WP:GNG Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 16:15, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nomination, or bare minimum, Move back to draft if there are notable sources out there. Spf121188 (talk) 19:45, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom MyNewBall88 (talk) 07:04, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom fails WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 08:04, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 11:59, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lars Winqvist[edit]

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Winqvust comepeted in the Olympics, but did not medal. We determined that such people are not default notable. A search for additional sources turned up nothing that would lead to passing GNG on this person. However there is a different person with this name who was involved in a case in the United States about land rights, so this is also by no means a good candidate for being a redirect. John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:42, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I checked the Finnish newspaper archive and there were a few mentions of him attending (as a member of a crew of three) the English 1937 coronation regatta (e.g. [1]), but that's pretty much it. A person with the same surname ([2], paywalled) has an article in the Finnish National Biography, but appears to be wholly unrelated. Unless someone can come up with e.g. book sources (or something else I missed), I think this is a rather clear delete. -Ljleppan (talk) 08:59, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Noting that this AFD was on the wrong log page.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:49, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete lacks WP:SIGCOV, per the assessment by Ljleppan, John Pack Lambert, and myself. BilledMammal (talk) 02:38, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Star Mississippi 23:06, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sokha Hotels[edit]

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Unreferenced microstub since 2015, with the only claim of significance being that it is the largest hotel chain in Cambodia. I'm not sure how to discern notability for this topic area, but the search results I've found in English aren't promising. There may be sources in the Khmer language, but no Khmer-language name or kmwiki article is given which could be searched. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 22:52, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - needs some RS to establish notability. Deathlibrarian (talk) 03:10, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. No evidence of notability. Ajf773 (talk) 09:36, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to National Premier Leagues Victoria. ✗plicit 23:58, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2021 National Premier Leagues Victoria[edit]

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Key data on league table is already included in a parent article of 2021 Football Victoria season; data on home ground information is not especially notable, and shown at National Premier Leagues Victoria article; no other seasons have additional stand-alone articles for individual NPL divisions; the rest of the article is a listing of matches (which could be merged into the parent FV season article, and then a miscellany of minor statistical information such as top scorers and most yellow cards etc., which are not inherently notable for a lower league such as this, and for the lower divisions (NPL2 and NPL3) also not up-to-date. Matilda Maniac (talk) 22:49, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages because they are the next lower leagues down - and therefore less notable as stand-alone arcticles - and have the same issues: Matilda Maniac (talk) 23:06, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I think article for the leagues themselves is clearly warranted, but living in Australia, these are minor AFL football leagues, and they don't need pages for each year's competition - not notable at this level. Deathlibrarian (talk) 03:16, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you actually have the right sport with that comment. Matilda Maniac (talk) 08:55, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks you're right - we have three different types of football in Australia - the main one in Victoria is AFL. Deathlibrarian (talk) 14:46, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect - I think redirecting these to the main NPL Vic page is better to have than an individual page. - J man708 (talk) 11:33, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect all as a valid WP:ATD. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:07, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. Giant Snowman 19:34, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Unlikely search term so delete seems a better option Spartaz ^Humbug! 08:30, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Juan Paz (swimmer)[edit]

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This article does not have sourcing that rises to the level of Sigcov. GNG requires multiple examples of Sigcov, but this article does not even have one source that meets that. It also does not meet Olympics notability, but even if it did that would not be enough to justify having the article. Searches for additional Sigcov turned up nothing. Juan Paz itself though is a very common name. So without having even one example of Sigcov, the idea that this swimmer is the most likely search option for this name, even just among swimmers, is entirely unsourced. John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:19, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Reply In the event of nothing being found for this individual, then redirect to Swimming at the 1936 Summer Olympics – Men's 100 metre freestyle, per WP:PRESERVE and WP:ATD. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 09:03, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
~~Redirect~~ to Swimming at the 1936 Summer Olympics – Men's 100 metre freestyle#Results. They fail WP:GNG through lack of significant coverage. BilledMammal (talk) 02:27, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. A disambiguated article is not a useful redirect. BilledMammal (talk) 04:21, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as suggested by User:Lugnuts. Beyond no sources that support notability, there is also very little information here. BOTH need to be solved for me to keep. gidonb (talk) 02:37, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 23:49, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fiber to the premises by country[edit]

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The page is promo and out of date. Now, deletion isn't cleanup. But I think those problems are inherent to this page and no amount of editing will fix that. I don't see how this article will ever be more than an advertisement for various internet companies. Furthermore, I'm not so sure the underlying topic is notable. This is effectively a list, and I don't see that WP:LISTN is met. The individual fiber plans are discussed, but not as a whole entity. With fiber becoming increasingly ubiquitous, I don't see how this would be any more notable than Cable to the premises by country. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 21:13, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I think nom is right on about the problems being inherent to the topic. Anyone so inclined might want to skim this article quickly to see if anything would be useful at Fiber_to_the_x#Deployments, the article it was broken out of. The article List of terrestrial fibre optic cable projects in Africa might be worth an AfD too for similar reasons, though it's not in quite such bad shape. -- asilvering (talk) 00:53, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I made a recent addition to this article. I put the effort into expanding this article because it answers this question for me: What countries/cities do have fiber connections available? While I see the issue of a lot of name calling of big corporations it is a natural thing to occur in this topic. Usually the biggest telco providers within one country are the most noteworthy and such an apropriate source. I'm in favor of deletion if there is another article which answers the question which I highlighted in bold. But I also admit that the part of title 'Fiber to the premises' cannot properly be answered. A name like 'Availability of Fiber internet by country' would make more sense imho GavriilaDmitriev (talk) 08:46, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@GavriilaDmitriev To try to understand what exactly you want here: would your question be satisfied by an alphabetical list of every country in the world, and then a simple "yes" or "no" with a footnote? -- asilvering (talk) 18:06, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the question. That would not be enough. Imagine you want to relocate to a country and you want to know if you can get fiber speed internet there. A maybe outdates yes/no wouldn't help. Interesting info would be:
How is the availability (only in cities, almost 100%)

rough price I have to expect to pay and

how much effort is put into improving the fiber availability

How is the provider landscape (monopoly, big variety)
The current article presents the info in a good way but is sadly severely outdated. But even while outdated I know a minimum standard to expect.

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Hm. I'm still with CaptainEek's reasoning, in that case. That's going to attract promo and unreliable information. Honestly, I've done a handful of international moves and would never even think to try to find that kind of information here, let alone trust it if I did. -- asilvering (talk) 01:03, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Given the speed at which things change in each country, let alone region or city, I can't see any way that this page can reasonably be kept up to date unless it was just to refer people to the broadband pages for individual countries.Gusfriend (talk) 11:03, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Page is just promotion. Swordman97 ^{talk to me} 21:07, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep, nomination withdrawn. Geschichte (talk) 09:45, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Phil Reeves[edit]

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Fails WP:NACTOR; he’s only had one significant role in Election. The Film Creator (talk) 20:58, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep That's not how this works; obviously a broad, yet quiet supporting acting career. I don't see any reason for deletion here outside needing more sources than IMDb; surely you could fix this yourself, rather than just rushing to deletion. Nate • (chatter) 22:37, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Meets WP:NACTOR. KidAd • SPEAK 01:11, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Snow Keep WP:NTEMP.--NapoliRoma (talk) 16:41, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Disagree that Election is his only notable role; he's in 20ish episodes of Veep, and was nominated as part of that show's ensemble at the SAG Awards, so that's pretty non-trivial. Based on that, I'd say he passes WP:NACTOR. Nohomersryan (talk) 02:03, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I withdraw this nomination per consensus along with the fact he has a significant role in Veep in addition to that in Election. The Film Creator (talk) 14:27, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Unfortunately, there is a consensus that sufficient and long-term coverage of this individual exists to invalidate a claim made under BLPREQUESTDELETE. (non-admin closure) SN54129 17:13, 12 February 2022 (UTC) (non-admin closure) SN54129 17:13, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Christine Dietrich[edit]

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Article subject requests deletion. VRT Ticket 2022020410009457. Fails WP:GNG; lacks significant coverage. Geoff | ^{Who, me?} 20:12, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - a review of Google News shows she's been consistently covered from 2011-2021 by Swiss news sources over her views.[3][4][5][6] Morbidthoughts (talk) 21:17, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: as above. These articles are all sigcov - they're completely about her and her actions. I can see why she'd want to have this article removed. Unfortunately for her, there's no WP:BLP1E argument here either; both the coverage and her actions are repeated. I've added the sources from Morbidthoughts' comment to the article, except for the BaZ article, which I'm paywalled out of. -- asilvering (talk) 23:52, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep If I search her name with swissdox (A professional search engine for most swiss newspapers) I had 292 results. She is clear notable and will pass WP:GNG. 🤾‍♂️ Malo95 (talk) 07:53, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment -- This has the fell of an ATTACK article, written by someone trying to whip up hatred against someone whose views they disapprove of. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:13, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment -- I'm the subject of this article and as I already tried to explain to Malo95 I've nothing to do with this PI-platform for more than 10 years now and by the way there was no single text I wrote there that was in any ways against the law. I clearly distanced myself from this blog. But until now - over 10 years later! - I'm still burning on the same stakes, because people (like you?) keep the fire still burning, instead of finally leave me in peace. I accidentally found this Wikipedia article as I'm checking my name on Google search from time to time. I'm not used to write as an Wikipedia author, I'm not familiar with all this codes and as you might could know English is a foreign language for me. I'm just trying to defend myself as a human being. As for Rosch/Ritter you could mention there were verdicts of difamation. They tried to turn an old and cold story into a new and hot one - with nothing new at all in fact. A bit a diffenent view on what happened was published in the Weltwoche mentioned here: https://weltwoche.ch/story/hexenjagd-zu-basel/ I'd really appreciate if you could finally delete the unnessecary Wikipedia entry about me as it is mainly based on false accusations. If you don't, you could at least mention my doctoral thesis about Asylum published in 2008 at Kohlhammer publishing in the Series about Old an New Testament studies. https://books.google.ch/books/about/Asyl.html?id=mBfceMy-jq8C&redir_esc=y. It's a compearing research about legal texts in the biblical writings compared with texts from ancient Greece ancieant Orient, Rome and Egypt as well as later reception in church asylum. Maybe surprising for you I'm mentioning the practice of asylum in a positive way. PChdi1 (talk) 20:15, 5 February 2022 (UTC+1)
- Hi @Chdi1:, please don't post the same thing on two pages, as in here and on the talk page of this page. It makes it hard to keep relevant discussions together. Also, please sign your posts like this, with four tildes, so it's easier for people to reply to you: ~~~~ -- asilvering (talk) 21:18, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Chdi1 About my question originally posted on the Talk page of this page, no, there is no malice intended there. I'm not sure why you see any, since what I'm offering to do is to add additional information to this article that is about you, but not about the controversies you've been involved in. It's going to be harder for us to find that kind of thing, because of course "someone says something offensive, people respond!" is going to generate more buzz and higher google results than "someone does something unobjectionable". I can indeed add a bit on your thesis. For the verdicts of defamation, I don't think we can add that unless it's published somewhere, though another editor might be able to correct me on this. -- asilvering (talk) 21:27, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment -- As I already mentioned I beg your pardon for not being familiar wîth the ruleas of quotation on Wikipedia and I don't think I will comment any more. I still think this article about me (a.k.a. her) has to be deleted because it contains wrong information and as I read in the terms and conditions writig wrong things and "tabloid" information about a living person is not allowed on this platform. See, I always thought Wikipedia was some sort of encyclopedia. Now it seems it's just a collection of informations (no matter if true or false) published in newspapers (and only of those free of charge). Other important facts like a verdict against the author of the most aggressive articles stay unemtioned, because only published "truth" and what "Editors" think is of any importance here. I'm just a subject, and there are no means, I can do something about it. Please, delete this article. I'm not intending to add any more comments. -- Chdi1 (talk) 00:24, 6 February 2022 (UTC+1)

Comment Chdi1, per WP:BLPSELF, If you are an article subject and you find the article about you contains your personal information or potentially libelous statements, contact the oversight team so that they can evaluate the issue and possibly remove it from the page history. There is additional information at WP:BLPSELF that you may also wish to review. Also, WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE states, Where the living subject of a biographical article has requested deletion, the deletion policy says: "Discussions concerning biographical articles of relatively unknown, non-public figures, where the subject has requested deletion and there is no rough consensus, may be closed as delete." In addition, it says: "Poorly sourced biographical articles of unknown, non-public figures, where the discussions have no editor opposing the deletion, may be deleted after discussions have been completed." WP:NOTPUBLICFIGURE includes, Material that may adversely affect a person's reputation should be treated with special care; in many jurisdictions, repeating a defamatory claim is actionable, and there are additional protections for subjects who are not public figures. The text of the WP:PUBLICFIGURE section of BLP policy includes a link to the public figure article, which discusses someone "who has a certain social position within a certain scope and a significant influence and so is often widely of concern to the public, can benefit enormously from society, and is closely related to public interests in society". Beccaynr (talk) 02:52, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep clear pass of GNG. Hemiauchenia (talk) 21:45, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Any factual errors obviously should be corrected, however the coverage establishes that the topic meets WP:GNG and the subject has held roles as a public figure. MrsSnoozyTurtle 09:42, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete. Recreation of a page previously deleted at a deletion discussion, as mentioned below by Venkat TL. JBW (talk) 21:37, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gurvinder Singh Chhabra[edit]

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Non notable promotional article on a politician that fails to satisfy either of two criterion at WP:NPOL & generally lacks in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources independent of them, thus a GNG fail as well. Being a vice party chairman in no way establishes notability. Celestina007 (talk) 20:05, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete: was recently deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gurvinder Singh Chhabra (Vicky) Venkat TL (talk) 20:11, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Star Mississippi 23:08, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Flashfire (film)[edit]

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Fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:NFSOURCES and WP:NFO. I did a WP:BEFORE and found no reliable sources or reviews to pass WP:NEXIST. I also found no reviews on Rotten Tomatoes. The Film Creator (talk) 19:46, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - I can't see any SIGCOV here for this film. Deathlibrarian (talk) 03:37, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete There is no significant coverage of this film. Just because a film was commercially released does not mean it was notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:41, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 19:20, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dean Myerson[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NPOL. Internet search did not produce sourcing that was sufficient to satisfy the notability guidelines. (FWIW: First Afd, in 2007, resulted in No Consensus) Sal2100 (talk) 18:19, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete none of the coverage rises to the level we need for an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:29, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:NPOL. KidAd • SPEAK 00:36, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:NPOL and WP:BIO. LibStar (talk) 23:17, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 08:10, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. The proposed redirect target does not exist. Sandstein 19:20, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vijay Rao[edit]

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Does not meet WP:NCRIC. Per this list, they've only played matches in India's domestic T20 competition. Can't find other sources on this guy. Note that the same editor has also created the same article at Draft:Vijay Rao. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 18:25, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails the updated cricket guidelines, and not seeing enough sourcing in a search to suggest GNG is met. As not list for Arunachal Pradesh exists, there's not really a suitable redirect, and as there's a draft, this should be deleted. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 19:45, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails to have Sigcov to the level required by GNG, which is the actual level of coverage we need to justify an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:30, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - There is also a draft at Draft:Vijay Rao. If this article is deleted, the draft can be kept in case he becomes notable. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:28, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Arunachal Pradesh representative cricketers, which would need to be created. StickyWicket (talk) 09:17, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 19:19, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Magaby Cabreio[edit]

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This artist does not meet WP:NARTIST. I cannot find any reliable sources online for this artist. The references included are one to a radio interview. No sourcing for biographical information or exhibit information. External link is dead. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 17:59, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete not finding any independent, reliable sources online. Maybe some exist in Spanish. Curiocurio (talk) 18:35, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I checked my usual list of over 200 art magazines, the Wikipedia library and newpapers.com and found two mentions in El Nuevo Herald, but nothing substantial. Vexations (talk) 19:52, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete many exhibitions does not a notable artist make. Bangabandhu (talk) 00:59, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as it does not meet GNG ... the only extensive source that i found is from a blacklisted wiki that i cant reference either. does not meet GNG Amoeba69th (talk) 04:21, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom fails WP:NARTIST and WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 08:32, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Spartaz ^Humbug! 08:36, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Llamas with Hats[edit]

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I didn't want to do this since this is among my favorite animated video series, but Llamas with Hats sadly just falls drastically short of notabillity guidelines. An IP erroneously dePRODded the article with the explanation that sources could be found on the talk page; these sources do not and have never existed on said talk page. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 03:53, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Fails WP:GNG. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 04:26, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep - Hello, TheTechnician27. It was me who prevented the article from getting PRODDED. I originally De-PRODDED the article from an IP on my trip to Africa and posted eight articles which covered Llamas with Hats significantly on the talk page - TWICE. However, for whatever reason that response didn't appear on the talk page both times I submitted it, even though the message popped up that my edit was published. I assumed there was some sort of minor glitch with posting on talk pages from a different IP, or perhaps my internet connection was so slow that it just wouldn't appear at all, so I left it to see if it would appear soon. However, it still did not at all even back in America, which means I'll have to post what I remember of my original response here - for the third time in a row. (>_<)

These were the three sources about Llamas With Hats which significantly cover the web series, along with other sources from mainstream media publications as well.

https://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/screenwriter/2013/04/09/we-recommend-llamas-with-hats/ (Donald Clarke seems to be a regular contributor and staff writer for The Irish Times, so this should be acceptable to use even as a "blog.")
https://htxt.co.za/2019/08/llamas-with-hats-returns-as-a-childrens-book/ (talks about the series getting its own children’s book - Impact/Popular Culture?)
https://tvovermind.com/llamas-with-hats-reboot/ (opinion piece on why the series needs a reboot, plus impact and legacy - Impact/Popular Culture)

Also, here are other miscellaneous sources which talk about the show as well, which may also help to prove the series' notability.

https://www.popdust.com/this-haunts-me-murderous-cartoon-animals-of-the-2000s-2645603268.html (cites the series as an example of a raunchy web cartoon from the 2000s - Premise/Impact)
https://urbanmatter.com/10-viral-youtube-videos-from-the-2000s-only-millennials-will-remember/ (cites the series as one of the 10 viral videos of the 2000s, showing its cultural impact - Impact/Popular Culture)
https://studybreaks.com/tvfilm/youtube-kids-isnt-innocent-seems/ (cites the show as an example of an inappropriate, raunchy cartoon as well - Premise/Info/Impact)
https://www.tuttoandroid.net/giochi/llamas-with-hats-calciate-i-turisti-su-android-189741/ (talks about the app version/game version of the series on Android - Popular Culture/Other Media?)
https://www.androidpolice.com/2014/04/28/21-best-and-3-wtf-new-android-games-from-the-last-2-weeks-41414-42814/ (talks about the app version/game version of the series on Android - Popular Culture/Other Media?)

These sources should be enough to just barely pass the series as a notable enough topic on Wikipedia per WP:WEB. PantheonRadiance (talk) 23:47, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

SIDENOTE: I've admittedly never heard of the series at all before seeing this article getting PRODDED for the first time, so I found these sources from a place of neutrality. It appears some of these sources were added to the article from when I last checked it (when I De-PRODDED it) to now, so perhaps it may be an example of AfD improvement (I forgot the essay of the article in an AfD which got improved between the 7 days the discussion took place). PantheonRadiance (talk) 23:52, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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@PantheonRadiance: Sorry, I meant to get around to this a couple days ago but completely forgot. This may change your mind, Padgriffin. I heavily disagree that these sources are sufficient, and to me it feels more like an unintentional Gish gallop than a demonstration of any cultural notability. Nevertheless, I'll go through all of these individually.

The Irish Times blog might contribute slightly under WP:NEWSBLOG, but definitely not enough to pass notability criteria on its own.
Not seeing any sort of editorial board for HTXT.
I can't find anything even suggesting that TVOM (TV Over Mind) is a RS, let alone has any sort of editorial oversight whatsoever.

Miscellaneous: (mostly content farms)

popdust.com is clearly not an RS, with tabloid garbage like "Is Rihanna Pregnant?", "We Need to Talk About Zendaya", and "Kanye West's Obnoxious Divorced Man Energy" littering their front page.
UrbanMatter isn't talking about "the top 10 viral videos" of the 2000s; they just say: "These are just 10 out of thousands of viral videos that found their way to YouTube in the 2000s." Moreover, I can find no indication that UrbanMatter is a RS, and their whole schtick seems to be pumping out listicle garbage at a breakneck pace, such as (taken from their entertainment section): "Top 3 Movies Set in Las Vegas"; "The 12 Best Monster Movies of All Time"; "Top 5 Movies to Watch in a Relationship"; "What 5 Movies to Watch to Gain Inspiration for Essay Writing?"; etc.
studybreaks.com is some random website with a handful of college student editors that would pretty clearly not qualify as a WP:RS.
Tutto is similar to Android Police but in Italian, with the exception that they say they promote products. This statement, however, has no disclaimer saying that they disclose when reviews and articles are paid for, making them, to me, a completely unreliable source.
Android Police seems to pretty much take anyone with a pulse, and I can find very little on how fact-checking and editorial oversight work.

In conclusion, none of the sources you provided under "miscellaneous" are robust enough to contribute to notability. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 22:10, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

not voting as i have some interest in the outcome, but this cartoon and it's catchphrases might be an unique exemplar, an artifact.

it's also had inserted into it humorous errors, an example of wiki parody that was never flagged until recently. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SkidMountTubularFrame (talk • contribs) 12:35, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per PantheonRadiance- seems like the series has enough of a cultural impact to be treated as somewhat notable. Padgriffin ^{Griffin's Nest} 15:21, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete While the effort from PantheonRadiance is commendable, I don't think most of these sources qualify for WP:GNG. Of the ones that provide significant coverage (the WP:THREE best), the htxt and tvovermind sources are blogs that I wouldn't consider reliable by Wikipedia standards. The Irish Times source is fine, but the other two lack the same editorial oversight as something published from a credible newspaper. The other miscellaneous sources are passing mentions and list articles that don't consist of significant coverage and therefore don't meet GNG. My WP:BEFORE unfortunately came up empty in an attempt to add better quality sources to this article. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 16:33, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Jason Steele, he has a few more hits in Google than this show does. It has a brief mention in a Le Huffington Post article in French and something on a German website, neither of which looks useful as sources. Oaktree b (talk) 20:24, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Currently Jason Steele (animator) doesn't have his own article and Jason Steele is a disambiguation page. I don't think that would be an appropriate redirect target. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 14:32, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Hello Qwaiiplayer and TheTechnician27, I respect your decisions and responses. I just have a few final notes I want to address, based on a couple hours of conducting some research.

First off, TVOvermind has actually been used over 600 times mainly for articles relating to movies, TV shows and pop culture, even in Good Articles (and even one Featured Article). This isn't to say a source is automatically reliable because it's been used in a GA/FA. However, assuming editors check ALL the sources in a GA/FA review (which they obviously should, especially for something as subject to examination as a Featured Article review), they probably would've commented on whether that outlet is reliable or not. While I couldn't find an editorial policy I noticed that several of the writers who've written articles for the source at least have a Master's degree in Journalism/Writing and have had their works published in other websites as well. I think perhaps it's more of a situationally reliable source. It's at least a step up from a blogospheric website, and if anyone had a problem with TVOvermind, they would've said something a long time ago, especially in something as held up to scrutiny as a Good Article review. Perhaps it's something akin to Screen Rant in this regard; maybe it's okay to use for pop culture topics but not for any controversial statements which would require better sources.

Also, the Popdust piece actually contains 130 words of text about the show (214 if you count the last paragraph it's included in), satisfying WP:100W. I use that essay mostly because Wikipedia doesn't have an official word count for what constitutes significant coverage, so in lieu of the Hypertext source I think that could be an adequate source for notability. As for it being a tabloid, I don't really see it as any less reliable than other journalist websites typically covering pop culture topics. It may not be AS reliable as say, Vogue or Vanity Fair or The Hollywood Reporter, but to dismiss the source as a tabloid because of its emphasis on pop culture over academia is a bit much. The source has at least been used in a couple GAs as well.

Finally, I think some of the sources should be evaluated more on a contextual basis rather than a quantitative basis. Sometimes writers abide by a "brevity is the soul of wit" philosophy and only write the most important aspects of a topic when describing it. In that regard, sometimes a source which only talks about a show in a few sentences is much more significant than a 3,000 word essay on some minute aspect of a show which contains a whole bunch of trivial, indiscriminate details a reader would have to trudge through. For the list-based sources, I think it depends on the type of listicles presented. Something like "Top Ten Characters who wear Pink Scarfs" or virtually anything from BuzzFeed would definitely be a trivial pop culture based list that doesn’t explain enough of its impact. But something like "The Top Ten Best Animated Cartoons of the 2000s" or "Top Ten Most Impactful Viral Videos" is definitely something of importance that can be taken seriously, as it's a true evaluation of both the quality and/or the actual legacy of a specific work as a whole. As for that list, it clearly recognizes it as among the most popular and significant of the viral videos of the 2000s. And as for StudyBreaks, see WP:RSSM: "...They can sometimes be considered reliable on other topics, although professional sources are typically preferred when available."

Overall, these were pretty much the factors that led to me choosing these sources and why I think they were good enough to establish the notability of the web series. If you guys still think the series isn't notable even with these sources, I understand. PantheonRadiance (talk) 20:12, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again, PantheonRadiance. This is quite a long comment, so I'll try to distill it down to its major aspects.

Please find any evidence whatsoever that TV Overmind has any editorial oversight whatsoever. That editors have not raised concerns about it before over the course of three reviews is not indicative of it being a reliable source; abiding by basic guidelines for what an RS should be is indicative thereof.

WP:100 is just an essay. It's not something even approximating a policy or a guideline, and in my view (which is just as valid as an essay written by another editor, because again, it's an essay), the essay is both entirely arbitrary and completely leaves out the obvious, prominent counterargument that notability should be proportionate to how reliable a source is and that the word count should therefore be decided on a source-by-source basis.

I called popdust "tabloid garbage" because of the contents of its articles. For example, please look at "Is Rihanna pregnant?" The article is a rambling, barely coherent mess that spends at least a third of the article shilling "a brand that helps couples achieve healthy pregnancies using natural products to boost nutrition." The source is trash. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 21:57, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Article is good enough to pass WP:GNG with reliable sources indicated by PantheonRadiance. ASTIG️🎉 _{(HAPPY 2022)} 13:00, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Meets general notability guidelines. Rreagan007 (talk) 20:06, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Gusfriend (talk) 10:00, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, seems to pass muster to me. Hyperbolick (talk) 01:10, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. A close call, but essentially the strongest arguments are from those advocating deletion, including the view that this not a genuine phobia, and therefore we should have an article about it. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 14:35, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Roller coaster phobia[edit]

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I do not think this is well-established as a stand-alone phobia. The Psychology Today reference used actually explicitly says "As a diagnosis, the term "coasterphobia" is suspect, says Otto, Ph.D., director of the cognitive-behavior therapy program at Massachusetts General Hospital and an associate professor at Harvard Medical School. "A 'phobia' demands you have a serious life interference," he explains. "You can go through your whole life and not ride roller coasters and be perfectly fine." This is the apparent foremost expert on the subject, straight up saying that this is not really a distinct phobia. His research into the subject was funded by theme park operator Universal Studios and there is no evidence he ever even tried to get it peer reviewed. The way the article is structured also strongly suggests it is actually a combination or variation of other phobias not specific to roller coasters. The only other reference is from Good Housekeeping which is obviously not a publication with a reputation for printing top-tier content on psychological issues. I'm sure many google hits could be found for "fear of roller coasters" but defining it as a distinct phobia unto itself and having an article about just that seems unwarranted. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:24, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Not only is this not a true "phobia", as explained in the nomination, but the current article appears to be almost entirely comprised of WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. What few sources that are included do not actually verify the vast bulk of information here, which is basically just using the description and symptoms of various other legit medical conditions, and combining them to try to establish the concept of "roller coaster phobia". Rorshacma (talk) 21:37, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Yes, I'm not sure this is an actual phobia either - the references don't really support it. I'll do some searching and see what I can see. Deathlibrarian (talk) 00:12, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - After looking at some sources, I would say, no, people who don't want to get on a Roller Coaster aren't experiencing a phobia. They just don't want to get on one - This article here does discuss it as a phobia, however they talk about people "liking" or not "liking" roller coasters, which seems to indicate its not a phobia (which is a more intense feeling than simply liking or not liking ...... however, this book says that the fear you get on a roller coaster is different to a phobia - that phobia fear is a lot worse, so it indicates its not a phobia : "Phobic reactions are far worse than the kind of fear people experience riding a roller coaster or watching a scary movie" Deathlibrarian (talk) 00:23, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think that's kind of the heart of the matter. Roller coasters and haunted houses are supposed to scare you. That's pretty much the whole point. Some people din't go for that sort of thing, they don't enjoy getting scared, so they don't ride roller coasters or go to haunted houses. That's not the same thing as a phobia. There are obviously real phobias that would make a person unwilling to go on a roller coaster, but the same phobia might make them unwilling to drive down a steep hill, or go sledding, or ride on a perfectly normal train. Beeblebrox (talk) 01:14, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep As a reminder, the question isn't whether this is a real phobia, it's whether it is a NOTABLE phobia. If there were seventeen articles in the New York Times completely dedicated to explaining that there was no such thing as the fear of capybaras, that would make the fear of capybaras notable, even if it didn't exist, by virtue of WP:SIGCOV. A quick google search reveals HUNDREDS of articles about the fear of roller coasters. Should this article be improved? Oh heck yes. A move to "Fear of Roller Coasters" might also be appropriate. But this is a concept with plenty of coverage. PianoDan (talk) 16:22, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thing is, "fear" and "phobia" are not synonymous. Of course people are scared of roller coasters, that's the entire point. As I mentioned above, some people don't enjoy that sensation and choose not to ride them. That doesn't mean they have a roller-coaster specific phobia, which is the subject of this article. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:56, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per PianoDan. See, for example, "Thrills & Chills" in Psychology Today: "Once a coaster takes off, passengers can do nothing but sit or, on some rides stand, and scream. 'The closest thing to compare it to is driving with an idiot' (so an alternative is to redirect to Presidency of Donald Trump); "Roller coasters: the drive to scream" by CBC News, etc. Another possibility: redirect to Thanatophobia. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:33, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Psychology Today article you quote is the same one I quote in the nomination, the one where what appears to be the only thing approaching an expert on the subject said it basically isn't real. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:53, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As PianoDan has already noted, not being a real psychological thing doesn't mean it is therefore unnotable. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:55, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

But this article frames it as if it is an actual phobia. If someone wants to write a new article titled "fear of roller coasters" that's fine, that's a broader topic not full of WP:SYNTH as this article is. Beeblebrox (talk) 01:51, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete the subject isn't real, as Beeblebrox and thew author of the principal reference point out. This is not a pathological condition. DGG ( talk ) 07:16, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I agree with others that this is not an actual DSM condition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lamona (talk • contribs) 04:26, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete There has been a note requesting additional references since November 2017 and it still only has 3 references. Gusfriend (talk) 07:10, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No notable references are present in the article. Timetraveller80 (talk) 18:13, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Whether this phobia is "real" or not is irrelevant. The question is does this subject meet our general notability guidelines, and it does. Rreagan007 (talk) 19:59, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I hate to keep banging this drum but I believe that is incorrect. The broader topic "fear of roller coasters" may be notable unto itself, but this article is about a phobia of roller coasters, a condition which it appears does not exist. They are two related but different subjects. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:45, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
WP:VAGUEWAVE. Please explain why and how X or Y article meets the policy you point to. Pilaz (talk) 12:35, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, for the reasons of those who want to keep this article. Davidgoodheart (talk) 21:51, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Rename as compromise As a compromise between the keep and delete can we rename it to fear of roller coasters as the use of phobia has a specific technical meaning? That would enable a broader scope and open it up to other types of references. We can then tag it for improvement and see what the community adds to the page.Gusfriend (talk) 23:11, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I did think of that and overall I don't hate the idea, but so much of the current article is WP:SYNTH it seems like it might be more worth it to just start from scratch. Beeblebrox (talk) 00:23, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I found some articles that might be good for the moved page or at least provide a starting point.

An article on the psychology of roller coasters.
Multiple articles here, here and here about overcoming the fear of roller coasters.
We can also talk about the psychology of fear and the enjoyment of fear.

I am actually honestly intrigued by what the Wikipedia community can make of a page about the different levels of fear of roller coasters, how it plays into excitement, enjoyment or rejection. Gusfriend (talk) 00:47, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Clearly a thing. Possibly rename. "Fear of" would do fine. Hyperbolick (talk) 01:12, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not really a real phobia. And, duh, of course some people are afraid of roller coasters. They are literally designed to scare those who ride on them. That doesn't require its own article and can be mentioned in the page on them. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:42, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
At the risk of pre-empting things there seems to be a rough consensus forming:
- There seems to be little support for calling this a phobia as that word has a specific meaning.
- Fear of roller coasters is a real thing. As Zxcvbnm says, that is part of their design, but there is a point that the response of an individual passes the limit that the designer intended (for example fear induced nausea whilst waiting in line).
- There are plenty of articles on people having an outsized reaction to the thought of going on a roller coaster.
- I think that a discussion on the notability of the fear of roller coasters would be better held on a page with that topic.

With all of that I propose rename to fear of with some cleaning up and a notice about additional references needed. Under the new name, after a period, say at least a month, to allow the article to mature and improve, someone from the community can propose a merge to rollercoasters or another AfD. This gives us a way forward and an opportunity to improve the page.Gusfriend (talk) 01:12, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep- what an interesting phobia to write about, surely this is worth keeping. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.102.255.40 (talk) 20:46, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, not a real phobia, and not a real slang term either. The lead mentions it being related to other phobias despite there being little evidence to prove so. As a side note, most of the keep votes are WP:ILIKEIT.Swordman97 ^{talk to me} 21:44, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Fear of roller coasters. It's a tricky question, and there are good points being made for both Keep and Delete. I appreciate that "fear of" is slightly different to "phobia" and that re-purposing articles is unusual for AfDs. However, notability is not established for "phobia" yet there would be sufficient sources for a "fear of" article. Therefore, as an WP:ATD I think it is worth building on the current "phobia" text as the basis for a "fear of" article. Apologies for my long-winded comment here :) Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 09:33, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Kadhalil Vizhunthen#Soundtrack. The supposed "multiple, non-trivial sources that talk about it" have not been referenced here. Sandstein 19:18, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Naaka Mukka[edit]

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The song do not need a separate article, it doesnot meet the criteria of Wikipedia:Notability (music). The article should be deleted or redirected to its movie page. DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 16:38, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Kadhalil Vizhunthen#Soundtrack. No evidence of meeting WP:NSONG independently. -- Ab207 (talk) 19:55, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Kadhalil Vizhunthen#Soundtrack. Fails WP:NSONG per nom. SBKSPP (talk) 00:47, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Article clearly does have multiple, non-trivial sources that talk about it. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 05:49, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Kadhalil Vizhunthen#Soundtrack. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 08:34, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. RL0919 (talk) 15:43, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Basant Jangra[edit]

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The subject doesn't meet the basic criterias and doesn't have citations from reliable sources. Please refer to WP:NYOUTUBER for further details. Batamore (talk) 14:32, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete we do not have the level of sourcing we expect for biographical articles, especially biographies of living people.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:43, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete - I see one source that might establish some kind of notability, but I don't think that's enough. NickCT (talk) 15:56, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Do not pass general notability criteria WP:GNG. Lack of reliable references that are independent of the subject. DMySon (talk) 17:27, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Agree with editors above - not enough RS here, doesn't pass WP:GNG - IMHO.Deathlibrarian (talk) 03:39, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Shooting at the 1948 Summer Olympics – Men's 50 metre rifle prone. Sandstein 19:17, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Luis Mantilla[edit]

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No indication of notability, lacking any significant coverage within the article or identifiable elsewhere, as well as failing WP:NOLYMPICS. BilledMammal (talk) 14:31, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete GNG requires multiple examples of Significant coverage to keep an article. We do not even have one example here.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:41, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep meets WP:SPORTBASIC with a medal at a major multi-national international sporting event. At worst, restore Lambert's redirect, per WP:PRESERVE and WP:ATD. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 15:35, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:SPORTBASIC - "are likely to meet", not "do meet", or even "are presumed to meet". BilledMammal (talk) 15:46, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete - I have to say "sports figures are likely to meet Wikipedia's basic standards of inclusion if they have participated in or achieved success in a major international competition at the highest level" seems like an incredibly low bar. Doesn't this mean every single olympian is likely notable? That can't be right. NickCT (talk) 16:05, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- This is why we have [Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Sports notability] because this is such a mess, and some editors consistently ignore the lack of any Sigcov in arguing to keep articles. You are right, that the argument above really does undercut the spirit of the RfC deciding that only Olympic medalists are to presumed notable. Still, that RfC is being better enforced than the one on high school notability ever has been.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:34, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Johnpacklambert: - Thanks for highlighting that. That's a monster of the conversation. I've also felt before that the high school rules need to be changed. NickCT (talk) 19:25, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Shooting at the 1948 Summer Olympics – Men's 50 metre rifle, prone. Not notable, but best to get to information where it can be found. Smartyllama (talk) 17:51, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. RL0919 (talk) 15:46, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cloudworks Entertainment[edit]

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Organization which does not meet WP:NCORP The references in the article don't mention, let alone discuss the company at all and I can't find any further that do. McMatter ^(talk)/_(contrib) 14:06, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete promotional article. I checked 5 of the cited sources, none mentioned the topic. Can't find any reliable sources myself. Femke (talk) 21:02, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete only 2 small gnews hits. Fails WP:CORP. LibStar (talk) 01:09, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I am the creator of the Cloudworks Entertainment article. I forgot to put in my user talkpage that I am an intern of the company and the Managing Director of Cloudworks Entertainment has paid me to create a Wikipedia page for his company. Hence, I am a conflict of interest (COI) and a paid editor. Is there any way to innominate the article?Aleeyasw (talk) 10:18, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Your now declaring on your User page that you are paid does not change the reasons why the article has been nominated for deletion -a failure of references to confirm notability. David notMD (talk) 10:25, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete References I checked (English) confirmed events happened but without any mention of connection to Cloudworks David notMD (talk) 10:29, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
What if I received the information from the Managing Director himself? Is there a way I can reference it? In Malaysia, the media won't really talk about the company that organise the events even though the company is quite a huge one. They would only talk about the events instead. Aleeyasw (talk) 10:39, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- No. Verification via a reliable source reference is an absolute requirement for English Wikipedia. David notMD (talk) 10:42, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Instead of deleting it, is it possible to move it to the draftspace? At least I can show the Managing Director that I did create a Wikipedia page for his company but was unable to publish it due to lack of references to confirm notability. Aleeyasw (talk) 10:48, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Action here will not be taken for a few more days. On Talk page of the article, create a new section and explain that you intent to add references that are about the company, and remove mention of events if there are no published sources confirming Cloudworks produced. Start the removal process on the article directly, even though paid guidelines preclude direct editing. David notMD (talk) 11:07, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
delete per nom, WP:Identifying PR and WP:BOGO. ☆ Bri (talk) 23:05, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Subject company manages notable stars and public figures in Malaysia, but does not inherit notability from these figures. On its own, its a fairly clear WP:NCORP failure. SamHolt6 (talk) 13:20, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 19:16, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ICICI Manipal Academy of Banking and Insurance[edit]

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No thirdpary source exists, unsourced for years. Unable to find any RS except this Khgk (talk) 14:01, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, I could find some independent coverage of it; LiveMint, Bussiness Standard but that's about it. So this does not meet WP:NORG, at best it's WP:TOOSOON. Also the ET article is churnalism. Tayi Arajakate _Talk 19:16, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 12:00, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Christopher Trujillo[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG as there is very little in-depth coverage on him. Most articles refer to his "date" with Blac Chyna at the 2020 Oscars. JTtheOG (talk) 06:47, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete a non-notable music producer. Producers do not get notability directly from their actions, unlike the actual creators of the music, and the sourcing is just not enough to show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:37, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The only sources found are for what looks like a child abduction case/arrest. He was a recording engineer for most of the works shown, one peaking at #82. No Grammy wins. Delete Oaktree b (talk) 14:09, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Slashlefty (talk) 15:12, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mirror and comb (Pictish symbol)[edit]

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not much notability... WP:3REFS Slashlefty (talk) 12:13, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Before we wrote things on paper, we carved onto rock, and the article includes three such carvings, and there are presumably more, I therefore consider that the rocks themselves are evidence of notability of the symbol. I recognise that may be an uncommon argument to make here. I'd need to check a library, but even the book "The Pictish Symbol Stones of Scotland" has the mirror and comb on the front cover, Likewise the book "Pictish-Mithraism, the Religious Purpose of the Pictish Symbol Stones" has a mirror and comb on the cover. I take that as evidence that the book talks about it. I think this article needs work, not deletion CT55555 (talk) 13:44, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I have added two sources that talk about them in a formal/academic way. CT55555 (talk) 13:50, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: per CT55555. –Ctrlwiki (talk) 13:53, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Subject appears to be covered by multiple sources; article is stubby now but can be expanded, WP:NOTCLEANUP and all that. Perhaps this article could be merged back into the main Pictish symbols article, but that would be part of normal editing, and still doesn't require deletion. --Jayron 32 13:54, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Obviously notable. Interesting choice by the nominator. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 14:48, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. RL0919 (talk) 15:49, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ayşegül Coşkun[edit]

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As an actor or singer does not have the necessary fame. A credible source has not addressed this person and his works have not received much attention from the media and sources. Needs further investigation. Persia ☘ 11:32, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Ayşegül Coşkun is definitely notable as demonstrated by multiple high-quality sources in Persian and Turkish, such as Hürriyet (Turkish) or Hamshahri (Farsi). Also, please note that the nominator is importing wikidrama from fawiki into enwiki. 4nn1l2 (talk) 11:42, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
User:CAPTAIN RAJU, please list this nomination among Iran-related discussions too as her fan base is primarily in Iran. If someone wants to search in Persian, they'd better use "عایشه‌گل جوشکن" instead of "عایشه‌گل جوشکون" (the current title of fawiki article) as the former has been used in the closing credits of Motreb, the highest-grossing Iranian movie ever. Thanks 4nn1l2 (talk) 11:52, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to make two articles for enwiki now which involve the subject of this nomination: Motreb, the highest-grossing Iranian movie ever, and "Behet Ghol Midam", the most-viewed Iranian music video on Youtube, despite YT being blocked in Iran for a long long long time. 4nn1l2 (talk) 11:58, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

~~Motarab~~ Motreb is not the best-selling film in Iran.
There is no source in the article related to hamshahrionline in the article.
This person was not present in the original version of Behet Ghol Midam, and when Behet Ghol Midam was one of the most popular songs in Iran
The Persian sources that have dealt with this person are not reliable sources
- etemadonline - Only one photo and one headline have been worked on and the news is about a project for the future and has not been made yet
- borna - Collaborating with this person on Behet Ghol Midam is more about the song itself.

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I'm not going to lie, some Turkish sources, with the exception of a few interviews, look good. ~Styyx^{Talk? ^-^} 12:21, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why does it not have a page in tr.wikipedia? And deleted by user:Sabri76?--Persia ☘ 12:57, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

tr:Ayşegül Coşkun was deleted in 30 January 2020, two years ago, and not even for being not-notable. Criteria M8 implies that articles may be deleted if they are not written in wikicode and if the article either has a lot of false information or isn't in Turkish. Criteria M6 would be the red flag (non-notable), but that isn't the case here. ~Styyx^{Talk? ^-^} 14:37, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Motarab [sic] is not the best-selling film in Iran. See List of highest-grossing Iranian films for yourself. The nominator is just lying and abusing language barrier. 4nn1l2 (talk) 12:40, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

see fa:فهرست پرفروش‌ترین فیلم‌های سینمای ایران, fa:دینامیت (فیلم ۱۴۰۰) is the best-selling movie in Iran--Persia ☘ 12:53, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Instead of calling me a liar WP:LBL, you better update your information.--Persia ☘ 13:13, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That movie is still running. And you are missing the point. Being the first or the second, what's the difference here? You can't deny that Motreb was highly popular in Iran and was a success at box office. 4nn1l2 (talk) 14:07, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

~~Weak~~ keep based solely on my analysis of Turkish sources. The Önce Vatan source is an interview, and cannot be used to establish notability. Haber61 isn't reliable, and I still stand by my comment made here regarding "Kimdir?" sources. The Akşam source is also an interview. Milliyet is reliable and independent, but this particular source consist of a single sentence, which is far from significant. The Sabah source is reliable and independent, and meets the bare minimum requirement of being significant, which I think is four sentences. The Hürriyet source is without a doubt the best of all: reliable, independent and significant. It does repeat what she says in one paragraph, but the remaining seven sentences are enough. Gazete Vatan is reliable and independent, however the source only consists of three sentences, one of which repeats the subject. I won't make a comment on Persian sources, as they are written in a different script that I do no not understand, but I guess it's fair to assume that there is at least one good source? Though again, my !vote is only based on what I see from Turkish sources without including this assumption. ~Styyx^{Talk? ^-^} 14:37, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Styyx: Thanks for your useful comment. I found other Turkish sources too: 1 from Star, 2 about her music by magazinci.com, 3 from Hürriyet, 4 and 5 from Milliyet, 6 from Posta, 7, and 8. These must be enough for you to change your !vote from "weak keep" to "keep". But if you are still unsure, I will try to find other Turkish sources. Thanks 4nn1l2 (talk) 18:50, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What the text in bold says isn't actually that much important as long as the provided argument makes sense. However with the second Hürriyet source above, I think this is a clear GNG pass. ~Styyx^{Talk? ^-^} 18:58, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep based on arguments provided by Styyx and 4nn1l2 Mujinga (talk) 14:56, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, google translate of the Persian sources suggests WP:SIGCOV exists there, in addition to the Turkish sources noted by Styyx. BilledMammal (talk) 17:26, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Styyx. --Kadıköylü (talk) 22:13, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There are significant coverage in Persian and Turkish language about her film in collaboration with Iranian actors. Brayan ocaner (talk) 22:30, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 10:57, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Formative Assessment in Sports[edit]

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Clearly not written as an encyclopedic article. Notability of subject not established, nor is any such effort present. Would require 100% rewrite to present subject matter in accordance with Wikipedia's requirements. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist ^{(Speak quickly)} _{(Follow my trail)} 10:20, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete for now, per WP:NOTESSAY. If content can be made salvagable, the article at bare minimum would need to explode and be re-written. Spf121188 (talk) 14:20, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOTESSAY. Doesn't seem to be any content worth keeping/making encyclopedic, and no evidence this term is worthy of its own article. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:18, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 12:01, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kain Rivers[edit]

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Fails WP:NMUSIC, this article is poorly sourced (from Russian sources), also contain undisclosed payments. Aesthetic Writer (talk) 11:50, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I was minded to close this as soft-delete but it appears to have previously survived AFD and I'm not sure it's eligible. Stifle (talk) 11:14, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Stifle: note that the article's talk page is currently still deleted, that might not have been your intention. Kind regards from PJvanMill)talk( 12:45, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Whoops. Restored. Stifle (talk) 14:34, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
~~Weak keep~~ This article has BLP violations, inappropriate use of sources, and it is promotional. However, these are all problems that can be addressed through normal editing. Similarly, the use of Russian sources does not have to be a problem at all, per WP:NONENG - the current lack of verifiability caused by this can be addressed with the help of a Russian-speaking Wikipedian. Now, I'm not sure whether Ukraine's national qualifier for the Junior Eurovision Song Festival counts as a "major music competition" as meant in WP:NSINGER, ~~but I'm guessing it probably would?~~ In that case, the article would pass WP:NMUSIC after all. ~~Looking at the sources, it seems like there is at least some significant coverage in news sources... but again,~~ we would really need the help of a Russian speaker to determine the amount of coverage and the reliability of these sources. Lastly, we should consider whether the present state of the article is so bad that using some WP:TNT might be justified in order to deny the use of Wikipedia for promotion and discourage undisclosed paid editing. However, I think the article can be drastically improved in a few edits... I think the notability is questionable, but with some doubt I think this should be kept for now, noting that the article will need substantial cleanup to become acceptable, and noting that it should later be given a proper evaluation of notability, which is currently hard to make. PJvanMill)talk( 13:18, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Correction: it was of course the national qualifier for the Junior Eurovision song contest. I should also note that he cannot really be said to be in the top three - as I understand it, the jury only named the winner, not a ranking. Both of these considerations make the NSINGER case a lot weaker. PJvanMill)talk( 21:21, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Now having gone through the sources to the best of my ability using machine translation tools, I change my recommendation to Delete. Most of the article is strung together from primary sources detailing certain achievements and performances, without any secondary sources that consider these relevant. Other sources hardly talk about the subject. The remaining sources seem rather unreliable: low-quality journalism without a named author. I do not see a single independent, reliable secondary source that talks about the subject in any level of detail. Thus I conclude it is not even close to meeting the WP:GNG, and I also base myself on my earlier considerations. PJvanMill)talk( 22:59, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment This article has a promotional purpose, most sources are from newspapers that do not show a notability. There are several citations in Russian national newspapers Channel One Russia, Komsomolskaya Pravda; but they are not enough to establish the notability of this article. I also tried to identify new sources, but as a result I did not find anything notable.--Tysska (talk) 15:56, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Not notable sources were identified for the article to be preserved.--Tysska (talk) 11:39, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete agree, if no reliable sources found. delete. Oaktree b (talk) 14:05, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 10:57, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

LaptopMD[edit]

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they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Daringsmith (talk) 06:44, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Clear advertisement for nn company.Vizjim (talk) 07:11, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, clearly an advert for a perfectly normal IT repair business such as can be found in any city the world over. Elemimele (talk) 20:22, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, this is obviously an advertisement. Please note that the page was almost entirely created by a few users who appear to be single-purpose accounts. These accounts only added content to this article or linked other articles to this article. These accounts include Cliohuffy (article creator), Arthurlmd, 50.74.132.70. Anton.bersh (talk) 19:21, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete promotional for a non notable company fails WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 08:48, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 10:58, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Operation Tigrayan Mothers[edit]

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Original research. Another poorly cited creation by now-blocked editor Rastakwere. None of the four citations even mention this alleged operation name. There are just a few mentions of the name in online searches (discounting the numerous copies of this Wikipedia article) and no explanations or descriptions of it. I think he got it off a Tweet. Editor was getting a lot of information behind scenes and putting it into Wikipedia as WP:OR with tangential citations that didn't verify. Should be deleted as unsourced OR. Platonk (talk) 06:23, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete fails WP:BASIC and appears to be WP:OR per nom. Mztourist (talk) 09:43, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Rename. If the problem is that this operations is not called this way, the proper course of action is to rename the article. Alaexis_¿question? 14:00, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:V and WP:GNG. Avilich (talk) 01:04, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. ✗plicit 10:59, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vivek Kar[edit]

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Failing the notability criteria. Multiple issues already mentioned on page. PangolinPedia (talk) 13:15, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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KEEP as it passes WP:GNG. I have found some coverage in The Hindu, ET Times, Patrika and so on. Article should be improved with proper citation, but should not be deleted. --NeverTry4Me - TT page 17:50, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: as per nom. - Hatchens (talk) 12:49, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:36, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fight Ready[edit]

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Cassiopeia talk 22:52, 20 January 2022 (UTC) Subject is a mixed martial arts gym. Most of the sources are from UFC which is not and independent sources for the owner of the gym are related/affiliated to UFC. The rest of the sources are about other fighters, the owner and interview pieces instead of the gym/company which either make the source not independent or relevant. The article fails WP:NCORP and WP:GNG. Cassiopeia talk 22:53, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - If it helps, I have removed all UFC.com sources and replaced them.-Imcdc (talk) 02:31, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Weak ~~Keep~~Delete see two sources that qualify to meet WP:GNG which is pretty weak, given the sources are local and/or in a source I can't verify as reliable. It has had some notable people train there, but that falls under WP:NOTINHERITED, although it does say something about the quality of gym. Papaursa (talk) 04:15, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I went back and reviewed the sources and decided they weren't quite up to WP's requirements. Papaursa (talk) 20:44, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: per nom. Sources do not meet WP:ORGDEPTH. ––FormalDude talk 15:30, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Scott Peters (American football) as it involves him. It has the added advantage that his page is currently sparse.Gusfriend (talk) 07:33, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete This is a gym therefore a corporation/organization. WP:NCORP requires multiple sources (at least two) of deep or significant coverage with in-depth information *on the company* and (this bit is important!) containing "Independent Content". "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. What we have here are a lot of sources where the gym is mentioned-in-passing due to one or other of their members or based on people affiliated with the company. None of the references in the article meet the criteria and I have been unable to find any references that meet NCORP criteria, topic fails WP:NCORP. HighKing⁺⁺ 12:29, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 12:02, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ravindra Telang[edit]

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Wikipedia is not a Linkedin; WP:NOTCV. Hence, calling for an AfD discussion. - Hatchens (talk) 07:28, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete when an article looks and is formatted essentially like a resume that is a strong argument to delete.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:43, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Unelected government officials do not meet WP:NPOL. Not seeing any significant coverage to meet GNG, just passing mentions. -- Ab207 (talk) 16:27, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:35, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tom Murmu[edit]

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This bio-article does not appear to meet WP:GNG. All the sources in the article are unreliable, so no assertion of notability there. From a quick Google search, the subject has passing mentions in few sources, none of them classifying as WP:RS. In short, the subject in not notable per our GNG standard, thus should be deleted. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 10:28, 21 January 2022 (UTC) Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 10:28, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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- Hi @Arijit Kisku, Sorry, but the article yet remains without any reliable sources. More importantly, this is an un-notable topic, I think. And no amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability. However, I'll appreciate if you provide any reliable sources about the topic. Thanks! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 05:57, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: per nom. No evidence of meeting WP:NSINGER or GNG. -- Ab207 (talk) 16:29, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:34, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Diecast Model World[edit]

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Lack of notability Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 06:10, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. I'm not finding any reliable sources to suggest this is a notable publication. --Kinu ^t/_c 19:12, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I just did a quick search and nothing indicated it is a notable publication at this time.Gusfriend (talk) 01:55, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. The "keep" opinions do not remotely address the reasons for deletion. Sandstein 19:12, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Avataro Sentai Donbrothers[edit]

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Avataro Sentai Donbrothers

This article fails both verifiability and notability. It has no references, and does not satisfy general notability or television notability.

The statement that it is notable is both incorrect (misunderstanding Wikipedia's technical usage of Notable) and useless. Verifiability is a core content policy, and this article has no references.

Moved to draft space once, but recreated in article space. Proposed for deletion once, but PROD was removed.

It does not seem likely that the article will become notable and verifiable within seven days. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:31, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Or rather, immediate deletion if you please. The article is now nothing more than a den of vandalism than what is supposed to be the former name of the draft page. Zero stylinx (talk) 08:11, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - There is a draft at Draft:Avataro Sentai Donbrothers which should be kept in draft space until the series is broadcast on 6 March 2022. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:18, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Every entry on Super Sentai#Main series has a Wikipedia entry. All 46. Also there is a whole page here on number 46. There are already pages on three other languages of Wikipedia. There are news stories on the new season. This is a huge thing, what's the point in deleting this when it airs in less than a month anyway?Fulmard (talk) 19:17, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - There's almost nothing left on the page, and it's unreferenced. Really, this page should not exist because of authorship attribution requirements (WP:ATTREQ). The real content is present in the draft referenced above, and a mess developed here after an invalid copy/paste move and failing to finish the tagged {{Histmerge}}. If not outright deleted, the page would need to be History Merged, and then likely sent back to draft, but that is more admin overhead than is necessary when it can be deleted. If the link above were useful, it could go into the draft, but it is a fandom page. -2pou (talk) 00:12, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and wait for the draft to be put into place at the appointed time. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 22:00, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Sammi Brie. The subject matter will be notable enough for inclusion within a month, but is currently not. The article that is being developed in Draft space can move at that time. JPG-GR (talk) 18:04, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Official trailer release and must update it. Harimua Thailand (talk) 12:12, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment onbrothers first appeared in episode 42 of Zenkaiger which aired in December 2021 so it is basically certain to be aired and cannot be changed further all information regarding the series is publicly announced. sure, so I don't think it's necessary to delete it, but to update it gradually like previous posts about Super Sentai. Bladesaber (talk) 13:23, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. There is enough official information for an article and more will come in the next weeks when the series will officially debut. Exukvera (talk) 14:30, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 12:03, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vietnamese immigration to Mexico[edit]

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The first AFD, Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vietnamese_Immigration_to_Mexico, was closed as no consensus after only five days by a non-admin. Because nobody !voted in the discussion, I'm 90% sure that an admin would have left it open until the 7 days, and then either relist it or soft delete. The closing non-admin, User:Vaco98, is a relatively new user (much newer than the nominator of the original AfD) and may not have properly understood when non-admin AfD closure is appropriate. (Or I'm going crazy or something.) casualdejekyll (talk) 20:23, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per WP:TNT at least, the sources are a mishmash violating WP:RS, nothing of this is worth retaining. Geschichte (talk) 08:19, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or Rename to something like Vietnamese Mexicans that (hopefully) leads to a page along the lines of Vietnamese Australians.Gusfriend (talk) 07:13, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:TNT. Nothing of value in the article and no evidence of notability. I merged the LA Times source to Orange County, California, which was the only source or information of value. Suriname0 (talk) 16:19, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Modussiccandi (talk) 20:49, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MMA Lab[edit]

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Subject is a mixed martial arts gym. Most of the sources are from UFC which is not and independent sources for the owner of the gym are related/affiliated to UFC. The rest of the sources are about other fighters, the owner and interview pieces instead of the gym/company which either make the source not independent or relevant. The article fails WP:NCORP and WP:GNG Cassiopeia talk 22:48, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - If it helps, I have removed all UFC.com sources and replaced them. -Imcdc (talk) 02:23, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep There are some independent sources that focus on the gym itself, although most of the mentions are in passing. Papaursa (talk) 04:06, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Delete in my opinion this fails GNG. --Suarez Mason (talk) 11:40, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete This is a company/organization therefore NCORP guidelines apply. WP:NCORP requires multiple sources (at least two) of deep or significant coverage with in-depth information *on the company* and (this bit is important!) containing "Independent Content". "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. Mentions-in-passing are not "in-depth". None of the references in the article meet the criteria and I can't find any, topic fails WP:NCORP. HighKing⁺⁺ 13:52, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Question I'll admit I usually comment on biographies and not companies, so I may not have a good grasp on WP:NORG. Would someone please explain why these sources don't qualify towards meeting WP:GNG? [7],[8], [9], [10] I admit they're not all great references, but they're not nothing either. Admittedly, interviews take up a large portion of these articles. Papaursa (talk) 20:38, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: @Papaursa: All the four sources there are considered not independent and not reliable because the article info are from the subject(s) who related to the MMA Lab in the from of "interview" which means the info are getting from the involved /affiliated subject even thought the website is not affiliated to the MMA lab. Sources need to be independent, reliable and covered the subject in depth (not the ppl but the company since this is a org/company article (the gym) in depth and in lenght and not only passing mentioned. Cassiopeia talk 22:31, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is not necessary true. I checked and all the 4 sources provided by Papaursa have commentary other than quotations or interviews. The parts that are interview or quotations cannot be used, but journalist commentary can be used. It is presumed that when a journalist writes an article based on an interview that it has been validated and no longer primary, so even if the original info was from an interview, but it is not presented in an interview format, then it can be used. Caphadouk (talk) 22:51, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The sources above are interview peices. If the interview section is a small amount then that can be used. But this is not the case. Info gathered are from the subject who related to the article in mentioned. Notability need secondary sources - "A secondary source provides an author's own thinking based on primary sources, generally at least one step removed from an event. It contains an author's analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis of the facts, evidence, concepts, and ideas taken from primary sources. They rely on primary sources for their material, making analytic or evaluative claims about them" When the sources info are based on interview and amount a great deal from the person related to the article then it is not an independent source. This is a corp/company article and NCORP is one of the very strict notability in Wikipedia and not a mma gym would just be notable in regardless there are a few good fighters train there. Cassiopeia talk 05:44, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - There exists enough coverage to meet notability. See my comment above. Caphadouk (talk) 22:52, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Independent sources are not sufficiently in-depth to establish that WP:NCORP is met. MrsSnoozyTurtle 09:12, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete insufficient SIGCOV to pass NCORP. SN54129 17:15, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 12:04, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OntoAgent[edit]

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Notability is unclear/unsuitable for encyclopedic entry, Tame (talk) 18:57, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The article is so hard to understand, it's almost like gibberish.TH1980 (talk) 02:18, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - The two citations appear to be reliable secondary sources published in academic journals. Unfortunately, the article is written in an extreme jargon loaded manner, and the lead doesn't even clarify what field or domain the article is about (namely, AI development, which would inform a reader which set of jargon they should look up), but this can be corrected via the regular editing process, no need for WP:TNT here. Fieari (talk) 02:14, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I wikilinked a few of the more confusing terms, added that it's about AI development, and cleaned up a reference. I might work on the article a little more later, as the more I'm trying to clean up and explain the jargon, the more interesting it becomes! This definitely looks like an article worth keeping! Fieari (talk) 02:31, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Note - One of the three cited sources is a preprint submitted to a non-notable journal, Advances in Cognitive Systems. A preprint like this is not generally useful for demonstrating notability. Also, all of the sources cite the same small group of academics, (Marjorie McShane et al.) which is another bad sign. Notability should be shown through independent sources which provide context for why this topic has lasting encyclopedic significance. Grayfell (talk) 22:54, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The first source lacks credibility to me: not published, no conflict of interest statement, and yet one author appears to be behind the software, which makes me conclude it is a primary source, which makes me conclude that there is a lack of secondary sources, which makes me conclude this is not notable as per WP:GNG CT55555 (talk) 22:50, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I originally created the article. Sadly I don't have the knowledge of Wikipedia procedures to improve the article further. Eibriel (talk) 05:12, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:31, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Internet Police[edit]

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Not an article at all, just a brief collection of unrelated uncited quotes and ideas about law enforcement and computers. Cleanup tagged as uncited since 2009. Apocheir (talk) 02:54, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Zero encyclopedic content. If this topic is notable, a completely new article must be written in its place. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 03:59, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Apart from the points already made, note that this is totally USA-centric. Similar things certainly apply in France, and I should surprised if that were not the case in numerous others. Athel cb (talk) 17:10, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - an easy decision. Not sure what the intent was in the first place? With the "P" as a capital letter might mean one particular group, such as a US federal agency, but maybe it was about how various police forces might use the Internet? Or policing the Internet? Just remove it. W Nowicki (talk) 18:47, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Not worthy of inclusion.Gusfriend (talk) 03:00, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The intent in the first place was to be the cybercop article. Note that that's where this article was for 17 years. Uncle G (talk) 12:22, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is also the Internet police article which lists a few countries that do censorship. That capital "P" makes no sense unless there is one specific group you want to name. One might argue to make it a redirect, but a search would find the lower case "P" as well. No reason for this one. W Nowicki (talk) 15:16, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. RL0919 (talk) 02:32, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lynn, Utah[edit]

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Searching shows that this was a post office, but that's about it. What's on the ground is a single farm, as far back as I can look. Mangoe (talk) 00:39, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - I found an article in the Box Elder News in 1972 that called Etna and Lynn both reservoirs and fishing retreats. This 2004 job ad says that the job that the ad was hiring for would be "in the Lynn, Box Elder County area". A hay vehicle crushed a boy there in 1984. Someone was born there in 1890. There was an LDS meeting house there that went for auction in 1972. Another boy got burned to death there in 1971. Biologists did a sage grouse project there in 1970. wizzito | say hello! 08:36, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Author Keep Meets WP:GEOLAND. It appears to have been a larger community in the 19th century; in addition to the 1890 birth above, here's a 1907 death and an 1878 birth, all with different last names (so, presumably, different families). Someone died in a crash near there in 2015. There's also a little info here. Chubbles (talk) 10:57, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Sources exist to show this was/is an actual settlement with a post office, so it meets GNG and GEOLAND. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 16:28, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Added a source, the community has decayed in the past century, but did exist.--Milowent • ^hasspoken 22:08, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Articles shared above demonstrate that this is (or was) a populated place. NemesisAT (talk) 00:45, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. The suggested moves and other changes all sound reasonable, but are left for post-AfD editorial discussion and action. RL0919 (talk) 02:42, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

History of the Church[edit]

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There is only one entry here which is an exact match for the title (History of the Church (Joseph Smith), the others are all either partial or incomplete title matches, there are other articles which seem just as inappropriate to list here (History of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, History of the Church of England etc.) - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 00:37, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikify to make it a disambiguation page linked from the Joseph Smith History of the Church page. That would eliminate any presumed confusion on the part of a reader entering this phrase and being directed to the Smith book when they wanted something else. -Markeer 01:57, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: valid and useful dab page. PamD 08:48, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This is a valid DAB page (all these articles could be referred to as "History of the Church"). However, the following should also be done for navigational clarity.

1. Move this page to History of the Church (disambiguation).

2. Move History of the Church (Joseph Smith) to this page.

3. Replace the hatnotes on History of the Church (Joseph Smith) with the appropriate Template:About.

That should satisfy WP:DABNAME, WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, and WP:FURTHERDAB Qwaiiplayer (talk) 13:29, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - There are a number of denominations that in common speach or announced preference are referred to as 'the Church'. I was just working with a page that made repeated use of 'the fathers of the Church', implying early Christianity without specifying this was the intent, and the LDS officially designate 'the Church' as one of two preferred informal names for their denomination. As such, this seems a not-unlikely search term for people seeking different information and thus disambiguation is appropriate. It shouldn't turn into a listing of every religious history page, but appropriateness of individual entries is not a matter for RfD. I am ambivalent on a straight Keep verses the suggested Rename to (disambiguation) namespace and promotion of Smith book to the primary namespace. Agricolae (talk) 16:39, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep but restructure -- Sn AFD is not the right forum for discussing the correct structure of a very necessary dabpage. "Church" has a number of different contexts. I would expect this to be a redirect to History of Christianity with an otheruses hatnote pointing to a dabpage for the other uses. The LDS founder Joseph Smith's work is a minor aspect of the subject. To me The Church means the Church Universal, i.e. all true Christians. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:55, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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