Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of dragons in popular culture

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Clearly no consensus to delete outright. Unclear if this should be kept as a stand-alone article, or merged into List of dragons , but that can get hashed out on the talk pages. For the moment, calling this NC, which defaults to keep. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:16, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List of dragons in popular culture[edit]

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Unreferenced WP:CONTENTFORK of List of dragons minus the mythology section. There is no need for two articles covering essentially the same thing. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 10:09, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. As dragons only exist in fantasy, I don't see how they exist outside of popular culture, so unnecessary fork. One list of dragons is sufficient. МандичкаYO 😜 10:35, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge with List of dragons which defines itself as "limited to well-referenced examples of dragons in literature, film, television, comics, animation and video games" though also includes Music. It has a section heading "Mythology" which is just a link to List of dragons in mythology and folklore. I've now added a hatnote to List of dragons to clarify. PamD 11:38, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. GameInfirmary Talk 11:40, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge with List of dragons, as per PamD, if there is any useful content in this article. Onel5969 TT me 12:37, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep There are several lists of dragons. The page in question has an edit history going back to 2003. It appears that, in that year, the main list was split into multiple sublists:
  1. List of dragons in mythology and folklore
  2. List of dragons in literature
  3. List of dragons in popular culture
  4. List of dragons in film and television
  5. List of dragons in games

while the main list was made a list of lists called Lists of dragons. The page suggested by the nomination -- list of dragons -- only goes back to 2011 and so is a comparatively recent piece of this churning. The general principle of WP:REDUNDANTFORK is that "the more recent article should be merged back into the main article" and so we should preserve the page(s) with the longest history. In any case, arriving at the best scheme for organising all this information is a matter of ordinary editing, not deletion, and should involve the editors of all those pages, not just a couple. Doing such investigation is what's expected per WP:BEFORE but the nominator just seems to be on a deletion spree of lists of fiction and so isn't doing due diligence. Andrew D. (talk) 20:58, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Very Weak Keep per Andrew D; this probably should be merged back with List of dragons, but it should be a redirect (for attribution) and I'm not sure enough what else needs to be done to endorse a merge. power~enwiki (π, ν) 04:39, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 08:55, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 01:07, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - this list is quite informative, and can be counted as necessary as dragons might feature in legends not typically seen as part of popular culture. Vorbee (talk) 08:06, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - agree with Andrew D. - Scarpy (talk) 18:22, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.