Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Neverwinter Nights characters

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The result was delete and redirect to Neverwinter Nights (series). Consensus is to delete the article; the late proposal to (also) redirect seems unopposed. Sandstein 16:24, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

List of Neverwinter Nights characters[edit]

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Unsourced (possible WP:OR), fails WP:GNG and is WP:GAMETRIVIA. Looking "neverwinter nights characters" on the custom WP:VG/RS Google search engine does not bring up "several reliable sources". soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 15:55, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - looking up the characters' name individually on that same search engine produces lots of results. BOZ (talk) 20:19, 10 May 2016 (UTC) Failing that, restore the redirect. BOZ (talk) 11:21, 12 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- @BOZ:, could you provide those results? When I look up the first one, I get a total of four results. Randomly checking others, the only results I get is a list of characters from a cheats page. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 20:47, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not able to look at a lot of those links at the moment because of a firewall, but there are a lot of results on the search engine. I am unable to link to the actual search results, unfortunately. The best I can do at the moment would be to post the individual links here that come up in the search engine. BOZ (talk) 21:10, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever you can do to help. There can be a lot of false positives in source-hunting with these video game characters lists - many hits may be just wikias or game guide type documentation that wouldn't meet WP:RS criteria. Sergecross73 msg me 14:34, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. /wiae /tlk 22:00, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

OK, it's supposedly a "Reliable Sources for Video Games" custom search, so we will see. :) These are the hits that come up for the 17 characters listed under the first NWN on the page. Some of the hits will be duplicated from one character to another when multiple characters are mentioned on the same page. I am not able to evaluate most of these links due to a content filter. BOZ (talk) 18:26, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Aarin: [1] [2] [3] [4]
Aribeth: [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14]
Boddyknock: [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21]
Daelan: [22] [23] [24] [25] [26] [27]
Desther: [28] [29]
Fenthick: [30] [31] [32] [33] [34] [35] [36]
Grimgnaw: hundreds of results, even after putting Grimgnaw Neverwinter Nights
Haedraline: [37] [38] [39]
Linu La'neral: [40] [41] [42] [43] [44] [45] [46] [47] [48]
Nasher: [49] [50] [51]
Sharwyn: over a thousand results, even after putting Sharwyn Neverwinter Nights
Tomi: [52] [53] [54] [55]
Kurth: [56] [57] [58] [59] [60]
Baram: [61] [62] [63] [64]
Vengaul: [65] [66] [67] [68] [69]
Maugrim: [70] [71] [72] [73] [74] [75] [76] [77]
Morag: [78] [79] [80] [81] [82] [83] [84] [85]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. /wiae /tlk 22:00, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 14:30, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The set of characters is not independently notable from the series, as proved by lack of reliable sources that directly address the characters either as a whole or en masse, individually. A character section with dictionary definitions in the series article would suffice. A redirect to the series could work too, but I see no need to merge the unsourced material as it stands. czar 16:41, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or redirect. From a cursory glance, none of the above sources provide anything significant in regards to notability. TTN (talk) 22:15, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:GAMETRIVIA. Insert CleverPhrase Here 05:27, 12 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect, that is, restore the recent redirect by the nom to Neverwinter Nights (series). I was unable to find independent secondary sources discussing these as a set, but obviously didn't have time or inclination to search for every character. As BOZ' search shows, some characters have been discussed in secondary sources and preserving article history in a redirect could provide useful material for future merges of verifiable material, per WP:PRESERVE. The title is a plausible if not compelling search term; it gets 20-30 page views a day. Hence redirect. --Mark viking (talk) 19:06, 12 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Close comment - I've undone the close by the IP as it was closed as Redirect .... I'm not seeing any consensus to redirect at the moment .... –Davey2010^Talk 22:43, 17 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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