Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/IWar

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The result was no consensus‎. Thoughtful discussion, it appears this should be revisited in time. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 00:44, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

IWar[edit]

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WP:BEFORE resulted in a finding of two books named after the term:

The Rise of IWAR: Identity, Information and the Individualization of Modern Warfare
IWar: War and Peace in the Information Age

I cannot access the first book, but the latter touches on the topic only slightly, mentioning how iWar is about waging information warfare against various state regimes.

As the article is about a term used by NATO, there is little potential for expansion, unless it is transformed into an article about "Internet warfare" to cover a broader topic in general. –Vipz (talk) 06:17, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. –Vipz (talk) 06:17, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The term is, as you say, used by NATO – and for that reason is likely to gain wider use for what is a recent real-world phenomenon (starting 2008), though a slightly older concept; you may recall published concerns that US power facilities were at risk of such attacks, and therefore were being hardened against them. Likewise, after the 2016 US election, there was discussion of reprisals against Russia for its interference, which ended up being sanctions but might have included the US targeting Russian computer systems. That too might have been iWar, depending on the nature of the systems and attacks. So the topic could become of greater practical (less abstract) public concern at any time. – .Raven ^.talk 10:07, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have added the two books you mention to the "Further reading" list, using 'cite book' templates, so that anyone who wants to cite them can cut-and-paste those into their refs. The original 2015 publication of "The Rise of iWar" still has no Google Books preview, but this 2018 Skyhorse reprint has some limited preview. – .Raven ^.talk 10:42, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 07:34, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 13:49, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The fact that books published by the US War College & S&S on the topic exist seems to show some level of notability but I do think that a larger article on internet warfare incorporating this one might be more sensible. DCsansei (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 14:12, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Perplexing. I would have thought Internet war would have existed, but it doesn't. iWar is in the title of two books, but beyond those books, it really hasn't caught on as a "term" from my searches. The broader topic is undoubtedly notable and NATO seems to have given birth to "iWar", so perhaps we hold this for now in the expectation that will be a redirect to Internet war in the future (unless the term "iWar" catches on in the meantime). Although I was confused as to whether the "i" was for "Internet war" or Information war? Aszx5000 (talk) 18:17, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.