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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Because of confusion surrounding the nomination rational, there does not appear to be any policy-based consensus one way or the other. (non-admin closure) ––FormalDude (talk) 09:17, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comparison of open-source wireless drivers[edit]

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I originally proposed this article for deletion Per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Comparison of risk analysis Microsoft Excel add-ins (2nd nomination)/Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Comparison of power management software suites/Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Comparison of XMPP server software/Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Comparison of DNA melting prediction software. The creator has requested that a proper discussion take place on my talk page, so here we go. * Pppery * it has begun... 14:00, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, what are the reasons for deletion? The article pointed to have several reasons, and I assume that not all of them apply. For instance:
  • Does the notability apply?
  • I assume that Wikipedia:NOTGUIDE doesn't apply here.
  • If Wikipedia:NOTGUIDE applies, which part? Does the "Simple listings" part applies? Does other part apply?
Once we start having the reasons that applies to this article specifically, we could start discussing it and see if something can be fixed, or if the article needs to be moved somewhere else (like in another wiki or project), and why it makes sense to have it (re)moved. Here I assume that the information in it is useful for people but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's in the right form or in the right place for that information.
GNUtoo(my point of views(for npov)) | talk 11:47, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The reasons for deletion are those presented in the linked other AfDs, almost all of which apply here. Those don't involve notability, but involve WP:NOTDIR (specifically "A resource for conducting business"), WP:NOTGUIDE (although the person who presented that reason for deletion did not elaborate on which part of NOTGUIDE they meant), the selection of what to compare on is WP:SYNTH (and selecting things to make a specific product look good is easy, companies do it all the time in marketing material; neutral subject matter experts would be needed to ensure things don't fall into WP:PROMO), and above all else a lack of good sourcing (most of these things don't have good sources besides marketing material from the developers (and company claims about a product are not a good source for something like this).. (These quotes come from Dylnuge 's delete !vote at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Comparison of XMPP server software).
More fundamentally than any above, the reason for deletion is that the community has made clear in various past discussions that it doesn't want this type of article. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:49, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - There is good information here and quite a lot of sourcing. There are no obvious reasons why this article should not exist. The nom says above More fundamentally than any above, the reason for deletion is that the community has made clear in various past discussions that it doesn't want this type of article. but actually there are many articles of this type, some of which have been deleted and many more thus far retained. What is needed is a reason this does not meet WP:N. Looking at other AfDs may be instructive, but arguments from those do not necessarily apply here. It is not just a directory, so WP:NOTDIR doesn't seem to apply. Neither is it a guide, and the arguments are vague as to why WP:NOTGUIDE might apply. I don't see WP:SYNTH here. What to compare on, like list inclusion ciriteria, are not examples of Synthesis in and of themselves. There may well be arguments for not having articles like this, full of technical information, but at this point no policy argument is given. Considering the amount of effort that went into this page, and the existence of information that some readers would find useful, my default position is keep. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 10:20, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - OP has not provided a valid reason for deletion. I also think that this is a fine article for an online encyclopedia. Does it need cleanup and attention? Yes, but not to the point where it needs deletion. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 08:46, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - I certainly don't like the current state of the article, but I don't see a need for deletion, and this article does not have the same issue as something like this AfD. If the issue is that "Comparison of..." articles themselves should not exist, that's something I think a wider consensus should determine, but here and now for this article in particular, I can't agree with the nom's rationale of "Per (those other AfDs)" because of those AfDs that closed delete, they closed for issues that this article does not appear to have. - Aoidh (talk) 04:11, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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