Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Climate change (disambiguation)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. As regards this mass nomination - individual renominations are recommended. Sandstein 08:30, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Climate change (disambiguation)[edit]

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Honestly, these disambiguation pages are pretty useless and have been defunct for a long time. They should be hatnotes on the primary topic and not disambiguation pages. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 22:44, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 23:01, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A mass Afd nomination is inappropriate here, but keep Cantona, Coentrão, George Heriot and Stephen Darby, and delete the rest per WP:TWODABS (Breukelen has three entries, but one is a partial match). Clarityfiend (talk) 05:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Cantona and Stephen Darby as useful and Coentrão as a redirect to a disambiguation-like page. Delete the rest as a disambiguation page is not required: any disambiguation requirements are already covered by hatnotes. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:06, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment these should be separated. George Heriot (disambiguation) has 5 entries now - clearly WP:USEFUL and meeting MOS:D criteria. Delete for Afton, New York. Boleyn (talk) 09:11, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment there is nothing wrong with dabs with 3 entries - unclear why these are being AfD'd. Keep: Adam Simon has 4 entries. KingSkyLord, are you aware you haven't notified creators of this AfD? I created Stephen Darby (disambiguation) and didn't get a notification. It also has 3 valid entries and so should be kept. Were additional entries looked for as well WP:BEFORE? I'm quickly finding ones to add. Boleyn (talk) 09:15, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Coentrão (surname) is a perfectly valid page, as is Cantona (disambiguation). Boleyn (talk) 09:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- @Boleyn, @Clarityfiend and @Shhhnotsoloud, to be honest, I can understand why you guys want to keep George Heriot, Adam Simon and Coentrão (the latter doesn't even really have a primary topic), so I'll ultimately let those stay. But I can't argue for why Cantona and Stephen Darby should stay. With only two entries outside the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, it could easily be a short hatnote. For example:
  "Cantona" redrects here. For his brother, see Joël Cantona. For the archaeological site, see Cantona (archaeological site).
  
  This article is about the former footballer. For the coach, see Steve Darby. For the 14th-century politician, see Stephen Derby.
- Also, sorry for not pinging you earlier Boleyn. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 15:34, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's okay either way, but since the dab pages exist, why do extra work? Clarityfiend (talk) 06:47, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Clarityfiend, Because there is an apparent primary topic, why create a disambiguation page just to show two links? It's just a lot easier to have a hatnote than have a disambiguation page which wastes space on the encyclopedia per WP:HATCHEAP. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 17:37, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep climate change: The special problem here is that mentioning the Pitbull album on top of the global warming FA (redirected from climate change) would be highly promotional. Global warming has more than 14,000 views per day. Anyone looking for the album can find it easily via the Pitbull article. Hedgehoque (talk) 18:39, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- @Hedgehoque... what? I don't understand why it should be kept. The album is the only other article in the disambiguation page, besides the primary topic and general concept. It's in the hatnote to help those who are looking for the album and don't know about disambiguators. It's not meant to be promotional. It's meant to the helpful. Besides, the album came out two years ago, so being referred to in a hatnote above an environmental crisis doesn't necessarily give it more publicity or profit for Pitbull than it has already gained in the past two years. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 01:50, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Global warming is not another name for climate change, so there's only the primary topic and the album. Also, Climate change should not redirect to Global warming; Climate change (general concept) should be moved there. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:08, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I have made a formal WP:Requested moves request. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:19, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - Check out the debate on Talk:Global warming with loads of aspects about moving and redirecting between climate change and global warming which was recently finished with this result. It already fills pages. Hedgehoque (talk) 20:47, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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