Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Hoshiarpur (1711)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:02, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Hoshiarpur (1711)[edit]

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The battle is not historically accurate and when and where the battle took place does not appear in any historical work, printed, or in manuscript and thus it is required for the deletion of this page

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 May 6. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 22:35, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I have repaired this somewhat malformed nomination, which initially proposed deleting the nonexistent Battle of Hoshiarpur article. (That this indicates possible overdisambiguation is a matter not necessarily relevant to AfD.) No opinion or further comment at this time. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:09, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, History, Military, and India. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:11, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Sources are RS; published by university presses or historians. The article can be expanded upon with existing and other sources. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 17:16, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Southasianhistorian8

None of the sources allude to this battle taking place at Hoshiarpur, with Ganda Singh outright stating the battle's location is unknown. One of the sources cited (Muzaffar Alam) doesn't even provide an account of this battle. Just because the sources come from reliable historians doesn't automatically justify the page being kept, especially considering none of the sources make mention of a battle taking place at Hoshiarpur. The same critiques and issues you raised on the Battle of Rohilla also apply to this one aswell. Twarikh e Khalsa (talk) 05:02, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. Thanks for repairing this nomination by User:Festivalfalcon873 (who didn't leave their signature). I think we need to hear from more editors on this one.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:23, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I noted this page was created by sock account and is good for WP:G5 speedy deletion. RangersRus (talk) 13:32, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. 3 sources on the page and all of then are poor and unreliable sources. One of the source is repeated twice that is from William Irvine, an administrator of the Indian Civil Service from 1863 to 1899 and is a WP:RAJ unreliable source. Source by Grewal and Habib is a translation of primary source from Persian to English. Source by Alam is a Google snippet that has no coverage on the battle the subject is on. The page fails WP:GNG. RangersRus (talk) 14:58, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. None of the sources allude or mention of this conflict taking place at Hoshiarpur. Considering the location itself is unknown, the page does not warrant an entire wikipedia article dedicated to it. Maybe some of the info can be merged with a larger page such as Isa Khan Munj or Banda Singh Bahadur, but this page alone does not warrant an entire wikipedia article as it's not notable enough.
Delete Fails WP:GNG and contains unreliable sources. Based Kashmiri (talk) 08:11, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.