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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. We can't keep relisting this forever. We have 2 to keep, and 2 to merge, with the original nominator not expressing an opinion, we have several new refs being added by some of the keep !voters. Closing as no consensus. ST47 (talk) 21:51, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bankelal[edit]

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PROD rationale was "Non-notable character article with little to no chance of being sourced." But I'm taking this to AFD for input on a merge or redirect. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 00:10, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 00:10, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 00:10, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 00:10, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - the above was written before the new sources added. I don't have the skills to properly judge the new sources. The article is in dire need of clean up, but AfD is not clean up. From the info currently presented in the article, I still believe a merge might be the best option, but I wouldn't oppose a refund for something more substantive and encyclopedic. --Killer Moff- ill advisedly sticking his nose in since 2011 (talk) 10:57, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep WP:INDIA contributor here, who is also familiar with Indian comics characters. This is one of the very popular comics characters with a very large number of episodes. The sourcing issues are due to WP:BIAS (mainly langauage and Internet bias). So it is wrong to use the same measuring scale for Indian and American comics characters. We are doing a disservice to Wikipedia if we delete such articles on the basis of lack of coverage in English media. This will impact our coverage of Indian topics. Inspite of the BIAS I can find multile reliable sources (including BBC, India Today, Rajasthan Patrika, News 18 etc) that mention it as one of the popular Indian comic characters, which are enough for me to !vote keep here. Here are some of the sources along with translation.--DBigXrayᗙ 15:24, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Bankelal among the four superheroes whose animated movies are set to be released.[1]
  • Bankelal among the four widely sold comics in India.[2]
  • Bankelal seen among the list of popular comics.[3][4]
  • Significant coverage on a comic related site.[5]
  • listed among the 11 most memorable comics character of India.[6]
  • Among the top 10 comics without which the summers were incomplete.[7]--DBigXrayᗙ 15:24, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "जल्दी ही पर्दे पर आने वाला है 'नागराज'". News18 India. November 4, 2017.
  2. ^ "आठ आने की कॉमिक्स अब लाख की". BBC News हिंदी.
  3. ^ DelhiAugust 3, India Today Tech New; August 4, 2018UPDATED; Ist, 2018 00:17. "No, Amazon India these are not the Hindi comics we are looking for". India Today. {{cite web}}: |first3= has numeric name (help)CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link)
  4. ^ "कॉमिक्स : हर घर में रहते थे ये चाचा, गुदगुदाती हैं इनकी बातें". www.patrika.com.
  5. ^ Srivastav, Vaibhav (March 20, 2017). "Introducing : Bankelal!".
  6. ^ "Tinkle to Doga: 11 amazing comic books every 90s kid will remember reading". September 26, 2017.
  7. ^ "bankelal". Navbharat Times. April 21, 2014.
  • Keep. I added new refs and cleaned out some of the most egregious directory information that I don't think belonged. (But even so: WP:NOTCLEANUP.) There are other references that discuss this topic, like [1], [2], [3], but they're scholarly articles behind a paywall, so I haven't been able to use them to source any statements rn. Ford MF (talk) 22:13, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:51, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. I am not sure if the character is notable, but the comic book series he features in may be, based on the sources presented (that I can read). Maybe this could be rewritten to be about the comic series rather than a fictional character? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:23, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde (Talk) 15:39, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
User:Piotrus The series that he features in is called Bankelal series. If you are referring to the comics publisher then that would be Raj Comics. If you have found that the comic book series he features in is notable then IMHO that is another positive opinion to keep this article. --DBigXrayᗙ 11:57, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
At this point it's more of a technicality - character =/= comic book series. One of those topics is likely notable, but I don't think both are, and from what I see the series may be more notable than the character, which would suggest a need to rewrite the article a bit. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:21, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Improving the article or renaming/rewriting it should be discussed on the article talk page and not on the AfD page. per WP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP. The question right now is should Wikipedia contain an article on this and the answer is yes. --DBigXrayᗙ 08:02, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to Raj Comics. it looks to me like the sources are not so much about the character Bankelal, but more largely about the comic books the character is in. It's sourced, but the sources are not really about Bankelal as the main subject. Some of the websites look like they may be promotional and not independent of the subject. Fails WP:SIGCOV in my opinion.4meter4 (talk) 16:42, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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