Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Balochistan Youth Action Committee

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Liz originally closed as no consensus, but at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2024 January 21 she noted she had erred. Re-closing as delete. Star Mississippi 02:41, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Balochistan Youth Action Committee[edit]

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Like the article about the committee's co-founder, I am not seeing SIGCOV. There is one promising source in the article, which turns out to have this line at the bottom: Mujtaba Javaid is a freelance writer. All information and facts provided are the sole responsibility of the writer. Hardly a RS. I recognize there could be some WP:SYSTEMICBIAS going on here, I am always skeptical of promotionally-worded articles about organizations. House Blaster^talk 00:39, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations and Pakistan. Shellwood (talk) 01:26, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @HouseBlaster, let's make edits to make it less promotional please.

It is an account of a not-for-profit that is working in some of the remotest regions of Pakistan. The Wikipedia would certainly help people to know more information about the organisation. Please correct if anything in the article is against the wikipedia guidelines. 202.141.250.250 (talk) 05:10, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
202.141.250.250, the problem is that Wikipedia is not here to tell the world about your noble cause. Charities are not allowed to use Wikipedia as a means of promotion, just like commercial businesses cannot use Wikipedia as a marketing platform. House Blaster^talk 06:00, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will also note if you have a conflict of interest, it is strongly recommended you disclose the connection. If you are paid by this charity, you are required to "disclose" the connection by the Terms of Use (section four, which you agree to every time you click "publish changes"). House Blaster^talk 06:05, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@HouseBlaster@Shellwood I don't understand why this page is under deletion request. Is there anything specific that the page is violating? Appreciate if you can be more clear with the suggestion. Tribal Explorer (talk) 12:08, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tribal Explorer: Hi! First, I would ask that you please read and respond to this message.
With that out of the way, the problem here is that Wikipedia articles need to have received significant coverage in reliable sources (plural) that are independent of the subject. This is sometimes called "Wikipedia's golden rule". To count, a source must meet all three of these criteria. Here is my assessment of a bunch of the sources:

Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Source assessment table: prepared by User:HouseBlaster
Find A Charity			Just a "trivial mention"	✘ No
How to Prevent the Next Pandemic by Bill Gates			? I don't have access to the book	? Unknown
Meet young activists making Balochistan better		At the bottom of the article, it says Mujtaba Javaid is a freelance writer. All information and facts provided are the sole responsibility of the writer (emphasis added)		✘ No
http://byac.dev	BYAC's website is not independent of BYAC			✘ No
WEF report	Was written by BYAC (see phrase We believe in, emphasis added)			✘ No
Britannica			Does not mention BYAC	✘ No
Tribune Express			Does not mention BYAC	✘ No
HRCP			Does not mention BYAC	✘ No
Bill Gates unsung heros			One paragraph is not significant coverage	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

With the possible exception of the Bill Gates book, there the above table contains zero sources that demonstrate notability. To be eligible for an article, there would need to be multiple sources that receive "checks" in all three boxes. Best, House Blaster^talk 15:34, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Non-notable charity with no sources we can use to build the article. Source 23 is basically how to donate money to the cause, rest are primary or non-RS. Oaktree b (talk) 15:24, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. There are some unbolded "Keeps" here that make a Soft Deletion undesirable. Hoping for more participation in a relisting period.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:26, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete source assessment by HouseBlaster clearly demonstrates GNG is not met. LibStar (talk) 08:53, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.