Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Archaic

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:01, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Archaic[edit]

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All but one entry (Archaic (comics)) is a partial match on this disambiguation page. Replacing this with a redirect to Archaism shortchanges the other main meaning of the word. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:14, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: It's not quite clear to me what exactly you want done now: redirecting to archaism? But that article is actually about yet a different, more specialized concept (not archaic periods in the history of civilizations or languages, but archaic elements preserved in present-day languages). Or redirecting to the comic? But that is most certainly not the primary meaning. I'd keep the page as is, for lack of a better solution. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:30, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 08:32, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: the comic needs a link, the "in title" and "look from" links will help readers find other stuff, and the rest of the page needs to be trimmed drastically. Note that in Archaic_humans#Terminology_and_definition they are referred to several times as "archaics", so that is certainly a valid entry (though should not be piped: I've unpiped).Pam D 13:20, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Archaic period already exists, which covers the archaeological eras. The other entries seem unlikely to be confused with one another, and WP:PTM applies here. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 21:24, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Presidentman So do you suggest that the comic be renamed Archaic and that we leave it at that? PamD 21:29, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That would be fine with me. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 21:44, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There is another dab page at Archaic Period: either that should redirect to this, or this should have a link to that instead of the various corresponding entries. We don't need both lists. PamD 07:14, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have had a go at producing a stripped-back version of the Archaic disambiguation page which I suggest will work to help all readers. PamD 07:25, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Clarityfiend Does this answer your concerns about the page? PamD 09:36, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not really. Two of the three entries are partial matches. However, I don't want it to become a redirect to the comic. Maybe a soft redirect to Wiktionary? Clarityfiend (talk) 09:45, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
But then the comic is lost. I really think my suggestion works best, even with a touch of WP:IAR, to help the reader. PamD 09:57, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I added archaism back into the main dab, explicitly including "archaic" in the description. In my own life that's by far the most common occurrence of "archaic". I imagine the same will be true of at least some other readers. —siro χ o 02:51, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:52, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. There are multiple things that readers may arrive at this page wanting to find, none seem primary. I see at least 4 full-fledged entries that should be disambiguated. (Comic, language, humans, periods). I think the dab is preferable to search results. —siro χ o 03:03, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: No consensus right now. And mixed opinions expressed on what some editors actually want to happen to this article which doesn't help determine a consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:52, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Seems like a reasonable disambiguation page to me. There are multiple articles that a searcher could reasonably be looking for.4meter4 (talk) 01:29, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - useful for readers as 4meter4 and Siroxo have noted already.

--A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 03:38, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.