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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete where overarching article does not exist, redirect (allowing for merge) if it does. There is a slight consensus to delete here; there is a number of comments about merging the content, but as regards the Algeria article these talk about merging to an article that does not exist. Therefore, I have deleted the article, but if anyone would like the content from any of the deleted articles to attempt to create a notable article like the one discussed in the comments, please contact me or another admin. As the overarching article for the Netherlands (Netherlands at the UCI Road World Championships) does exist, I have redirected there; the content is still in the history if anyone wants to merge it in. Black Kite (talk) 00:22, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Algeria at the 2015 UCI Road World Championships[edit]

Algeria at the 2015 UCI Road World Championships (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)
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Nations at the xxx pages are usually reserved for events with multiple sports or disciplines. This one focuses on just one sport. Also quoting Peter Rehse, from another similar AFD [1], "they are all a rehash of a single source. National results for events that are borderline notable themselves. Even there there is nothing demonstrating that [the country] performed anywhere near notable." Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:52, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Also nominating the following for the articles in the following category: Nations at the UCI Road World Championships except the ones that are not in a subcategory . Total article count:642 +

Netherlands at the 1998 UCI Road World Championships (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) For the same reasons as above. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 03:07, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note BRFA has been submitted to add AFD notices to all relevant pages. Primefac (talk) 03:25, 23 December 2016 (UTC) BRFA put on hold until I know exactly how deep this AFD rabbit hole is going. Primefac (talk) 15:08, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • Update all pages nominated in this particular AFD have been tagged. Primefac (talk) 00:17, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong delete - it is an example of proliferation of sports statistics cruft that's best left for dedicated databases. Renata (talk) 01:28, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, as stated, these articles are a considerably different case than X at the Olympics. --Tone 09:27, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge. While I generally agree with arguments in favor of delete, I feel the best solution would be to merge the per-country-per-year articles into per-country articles (Algeria at the UCI Road World Championships, etc.). GregorB (talk) 12:13, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Consider merging to per-country articles only if there are viable significant non-stats content (e.g. historical/social/cultural details) worthy of mention. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:35, 30 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge all per GregorB. -- Shudde talk 09:41, 30 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep
1) The nominator says events that are borderline notable themselves, well the event meets WP:NCYC and it's even at Wikipedia:In the news/Recurring items.
2) As per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/France at the 2014 European Athletics Championships. (Note that the European Athletics Championships are not listed at Wikipedia:In the news/Recurring items)
3) THe nominator says Nations at the xxx pages are usually reserved for events with multiple sports or disciplines. But the same kind of series are made for the Category:Nations at the European Athletics Championships and Category:Nations at the World Championships in Athletics. These events have the same notability standard.
4) The pages where discussed at the Cycling Wikiproject, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cycling/Archive 12#Country pages for the UCI Road World championships. Lugnuts, XyZAn and Buzzards-Watch Me Work joined the discussion and nobody was against.
or Renaming: It might be better to rename all such pages into like 2015 in Dutch road cycling, 2015 in French road cycling etc.. (Note that merging into the national pages is difficult as there are already pages named Netherlands at the UCI Road World Championships, Germany at the UCI Road World Championships and United States at the UCI Road World Championships. )
Sander.v.Ginkel (Talk) 13:32, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge as per GregorB, standardise to [Country] at [Competition], this is also something I brought up at WT:CYC XyZAn (talk) 13:56, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge - Each country's total statistics at specified competitions. No need to have an article for each separate year.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 07:29, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Routine coverage of a particular country's participation in an event, therefore not notable. 1292simon (talk) 08:16, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Same rationale as 1292simon above. GauchoDude (talk) 18:10, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge - Into Algeria at the UCI Road World Championships, similar to User:GregorB's suggestion above. To me, the gold standard for the various year/country UCI Road World Championships articles is Italy at the UCI Road World Championships. Italy has won the most medals, and that tally is succinctly showcased in that article. It covers all the years in one place. I've also noticed that of the various articles flagged for deletion, Algeria's cannot claim any medal finishes at all. Their participation in the event is borderline notable, and at the very least not deserving of a granular year by year tally of their unsuccessful participation. Absent any medals, the merged article could perhaps recount the closest finishes they had, and perhaps also have a running tally of participants by year. Others more familiar with the cultural significance of this race might have additional ideas for substance.Timtempleton (talk) 23:44, 6 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.