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2024 Nairobi mid-air collision[edit]

The supporting source is here. It says it that the aircraft is 23.2 years old. If we are talking about when the incident occurred, it would be approximately 23 years old. Mentioning "and 1 engineer" is redundant since he/she is part of the crew. CreatorOfMinecraftHerobrine (talk) 20:03, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Scroll down and put 2 and 2 together. It was 22.65 years old. Fadedreality556 (talk) 00:35, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I’m sorry I have no idea what that means at all. Please clarify. CreatorOfMinecraftHerobrine (talk) 01:04, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It says in the supporting cite that the aircraft was 23 years old. If you have a source which indicates 22 years old, please list below. CreatorOfMinecraftHerobrine (talk) 01:05, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A. Scroll down and look at the first box. B. Here. The Preliminary report Fadedreality556 (talk) 01:16, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The sites certification is expired so therefore the info on that site might be unreliable since there is nothing there. And if there is info, I have two sites, and you only have one. The cite you provided is initial and might change on final report. CreatorOfMinecraftHerobrine (talk) 01:34, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a third cite I found which support my claim on what time the collision occured. Here CreatorOfMinecraftHerobrine (talk) 01:39, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll admit, it was working at least 30 minutes ago. But of course. Fadedreality556 (talk) 01:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

well even if it WAS working, i still have more evidence therefore keeping MY EVIDENCE on the article is now a must. CreatorOfMinecraftHerobrine (talk) 01:47, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Now please stop adding those info u got. Thank you CreatorOfMinecraftHerobrine (talk) 01:48, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Listen. Preliminary reports typically refer to initial or early findings, assessments, or data that are subject to further verification, analysis, or confirmation. These reports may not be final and could be subject to change based on additional information or investigation. This means the preliminary reports are not always fully reliable as they are based on initial findings and may not have undergone thorough verification or scrutiny. Planespotters and ASN are verified. Planespotters, ASN, and Avherald all agree with each other unlike the preliminary report. CreatorOfMinecraftHerobrine (talk) 14:35, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless of who's right (I haven't looked at the sources yet), please could you both stop edit warring. Both of you are in breach of WP:3RR right now. Rosbif73 (talk) 14:48, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I know, But something that is confirmed in a preliminary report is, ATC transcripts, aircraft records, and time of occurrences. So I will keep doing my edits. Fadedreality556 (talk) 14:50, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As it says on WP:EDITWAR, [c]laiming "My edits were right, so it wasn't edit warring" is not a valid defense. Rosbif73 (talk) 14:55, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My defense is that I have three cites, he has only one, and those three cites are verified. I shared my cites with him and explained how preliminary reports are initial and unreliable. He refuses to believe and keeps on adding HIS information despite being cited by me. CreatorOfMinecraftHerobrine (talk) 15:03, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As it says on WP:EDITWAR, [c]laiming "My edits were right, so it wasn't edit warring" is not a valid defense. Rosbif73 (talk) 15:13, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand how a preliminary report can be unreliable for aircraft information. Here's an AAID Final Report involving 5Y-NNJ in another accident, the serial number is 172-65726, here's another source, another one, and one more. While it is true that preliminary reports can have incorrect information involving what actually happened and how, the point of preliminary reports is to report on preliminary information and give a summary of known facts. To call preliminary reports unreliable is inaccurate as while they can contain incorrect information, you wouldn't know that until the final report were released. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:41, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]