Talk:Albert P. Crary

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Interesting article. Albert's son, Frank Crary, was a close friend in college. Frank generally followed his father's footsteps; he's a planetary and space scientist, doing magnetic and space plasma science on missions including Cassini, Deep Space 1, Galileo Georgewilliamherbert 07:25, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I heard Crary was a Communist with ties to the Soviet Union which influenced his decision making at NSF. He was responsible for slipping knowledge of nuclear monitoring to the Soviets while at Columbia. Another interesting thing about him, is that MOGUL was responsible for the UFO craze that arose at Roswell, NM because of a errant balloon experiment(DOOdooDOOdoo..). Why didn't they tell the Air Force about the balloon? Were they spying on the base? Also he had a graduate student at Columbia that most likely was the son of Elizabeth Bentley, the Red Spy Queen, who ran the main espionage cell and Communist school in New York City. Those were exciting years because Columbia physicists (next door to Crary)were involved in making the bomb and giving the secrets over to the Rosenbergs. If anyone knows anything about Crary other than his ciriculum vitae I would be interested in knowing more about it. AntarcRes1 20:42, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I probably shouldn't be making a comment about an article about a close relative, but...

To the best of my knowledge, Albert Crary was not a communist. His second wife was a socialist during the 1930s and 40s, but that's the closest connection I know of.

While he did work with Soviet scientists, that didn't happen until he started working on the scientific program in the Antarctic, and a decade or more after the Mogul project and his work on nuclear monitoring techniques.

Project Mogul was an Air Force project, so they certainly knew all about it. The Roswell incident was about the Air Force trying to cover up one of their own classified project by saying it was just a weather balloon. (It did involve a high altitude balloon carrying atmospheric science instruments, but they were not intended for weather measurements...)

While he did work with scientists at Columbia, I don't think he was ever officially affiliated with that University. He certainly didn't have any graduate students there. You may be confused about his work with Charles Bentley, another polar geophysics. But they only got to know each other after Dr. Bentley started his graduate work at the University of Wisconsin. You are probably also confusing different people with similar names. Bentley isn't an uncommon name. Charles Bentley's mother may well have been named Elizabeth (I honestly have no idea), but that doesn't mean she was the same person involved in Soviet espionage. There are and have been lots of Elizabeth Bentleys in the United States.

If you have any information about street addresses, please share that. Because I'm pretty sure Albert Crary never lived in New York City for any length of time. And he definitely didn't during the time the Soviet spy ring you describe was active. For most of that period, he wasn't even in the state of New York. Fcrary (talk) 03:14, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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