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Proposed Additions[edit]

limogesboutique.com, limogesboxcollector.com, limogesdirect.net, perfectlimoges.com, and limoges.com[edit]

There have also been numerous other IPs, but I have listed only those that have been used recently.

The problem has mainly been spammings of the article Limoges Box, ranging from May 2011 to November 2012. There has been edit warring between two different spammers, removing one another's spam and adding their own, with Miraluck and 97.96.242.159 on one side and 71.105.235.16 and 96.229.138.69 on the other.

Examples from Miraluck and 97.96.242.159:

  • Miraluck adds links to www.limogesboutique.com [1] [2] [3]
  • Miraluck removes links to www.limogesboxcollector.com [4] [5] [6]
  • 97.96.242.159 adds links to www.limogesdirect.net and www.limogesboutique.com, and removes links to www.limogesboxcollector.com [7] [8] [9] [10]


Examples from the other side (71.105.235.16 and 96.229.138.69):

  • 96.229.138.69 adds links to www.limogesboxcollector.com [11] [12] [13]
  • 96.229.138.69 adds link to www.limogesboxcollector.com and removes link to www.limogesboutique.com [14]
  • 71.105.235.16 adds links to www.limogesboxcollector.com [15] [16]


There have also been spammings to several other articles, going back at least as far as July 2008, as in this edit, where Miraluck adds links to www.limogesboutique.com, www.limogesdirect.net and www.perfectlimoges.com to Limoges porcelain, this edit where the same editor adds the same links to Kaolinite, and this edit where 72.184.14.93 adds a link to www.limogesboutique.com to Porcelain, this edit where the same IP adds the same link to Limoges porcelain. Particularly striking is this edit, where 86.147.252.72 adds a spam link to www.limoges.com with the totally misleading edit summary "deleted link spam". (The edit only adds a link, and does not delete anything.) Links to the same site are added here here here and numerous other times over the years. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:07, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Great report James, thank you. All have been plus Added--Hu12 (talk) 01:11, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

aochiworld.com[edit]

Spammers

MER-C 08:48, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

plus Added--Hu12 (talk) 15:23, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

vb.com[edit]

Google Analytics ID: UA-35145861 - (Track - Report - reverseinternet.com • Meta: Track - Report)
Spammers

Mostly refspam. Almost never uses the same IP twice, but they all geolocate to France. - MrOllie (talk) 20:01, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Done--Hu12 (talk) 01:43, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

inforapid.org[edit]

inforapid.org: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:frSpamcheckMER-C X-wikigs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: searchmeta • Domain: domaintoolsAboutUs.com

It's a wikipedia mirror.

-- seth (talk) 09:19, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

alphahistory.com & lawgovpol.com[edit]

These two domains belong to the same company. The SPA Serumy has done nothing but adding links to these two domains, since the account started editing in July 2012. (Examples: [17] [18] [19] [20]) Not only do the links add little if any useful value to the article, but it seems that the web site in question (under both its domain names) copies content from other sites and falsely claims to have copyright. This is discussed at Wikipedia:External links/Noticeboard#Alpha History. (Permalink to current version: [21]). JamesBWatson (talk) 11:12, 13 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Gentlemen, I am the manager of Alpha History and have just become aware of this issue. The user "Serumy" is a student who made these edits under the impression that he was helping me to promote the site. He was not acting with my knowledge or endorsement. While I have no particular interest in adding links to Alpha History to Wikipedia, and vice versa, I would ask that you refrain from blacklisting at this time. Our site is a collaboration between several teachers who write all our content, other than documentary sources. We do not steal or copy material from other sites, as claimed by the user above. Thank you. BCDoone58 (talk) 11:51, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Alpha History Pty Ltd
Adsense google_ad_client = pub-1600966818741801 (Track - Report - reverseinternet.com • meta: Track - Report)
Google Analytics ID: UA-34020095 - (Track - Report - reverseinternet.com • Meta: Track - Report)
Accounts
Serumy (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · blacklist hits · AbuseLog · what links to user page · count · COIBot · Spamcheck · user page logs · x-wiki · status · Edit filter search · Google · StopForumSpam)
BCDoone58 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · blacklist hits · AbuseLog · what links to user page · count · COIBot · Spamcheck · user page logs · x-wiki · status · Edit filter search · Google · StopForumSpam)
119.12.246.113 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
Since this is limited to one account I'm reluctant to add it. I agree with JamesBWatson's analysis and there is evidence that Wikipedia was even used as source information; "I used wikipedia to source my information.". It's clear all the accounts related to this site are communicating and are aware of the problem with Serumy's additions. I expect the additions will cease, however if another instance occurs, I have no objection to adding it.  Not done for now--Hu12 (talk) 04:37, 15 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

shufra again[edit]

asdste100.org: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:frSpamcheckMER-C X-wikigs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: searchmeta • Domain: domaintoolsAboutUs.com

asd-stemg.org: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:frSpamcheckMER-C X-wikigs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: searchmeta • Domain: domaintoolsAboutUs.com

Hi. Hu12 helped last time, in the thread archived at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard/Archive 59#Simplified English.

The spammers are back with two new domains (listed above. Diffs of the sites being added, are here:[22], [23]). Please blacklist those 2 new domains. Thanks.

(Further background details, fyi: As Tobias notes at RFPP, they sometimes temporarily redirect the domains to the official/actual industry site (eg that first one, currently), to make the url appear legit, but then later redirect them back to their own business. (Also the spammers are trying to delete talkpage threads - see December history at Talk:Simplified Technical English - which we can revert for now, and we'll request temp page protection if it continues. I'm just noting for completism).) –Quiddity (talk) 23:10, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for watching out for these. If any more are found, keep reporting. plus Added. --Hu12 (talk) 20:08, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

nakki.info[edit]

nakki.info: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:frSpamcheckMER-C X-wikigs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: searchmeta • Domain: domaintoolsAboutUs.com 62.194.104.217 (talk) 19:52, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Additional information needed evidence?--Hu12 (talk) 19:58, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
T Mumbles (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · blacklist hits · AbuseLog · what links to user page · count · COIBot · Spamcheck · user page logs · x-wiki · status · Edit filter search · Google · StopForumSpam). Not that Edit filter search is broken by the space, but doesn't yield anything anyway. 62.194.104.217 (talk) 20:11, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I've warned the user. Doesn't seem to be enough there to warrant blacklisting, so we'll mark this as  Not done for now.--Hu12 (talk) 20:20, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed Removals[edit]

zco.com[edit]

I noticed this domain was registered on Wikipedia's blacklist: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Spam_blacklist. I spoke with the company and they mentioned it had only submitted to Wikipedia once three years ago and that is its only experience with it. Is there a way to figure out why it was blacklisted or what steps I can take to remove it?

Sherrymelrose (talk) 13:53, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Sherrymelrose[reply]

Sherry, that company was incorrect. Multiple parties added those links. Beyond that, this was but one of several domains in a cluster that were spammed by the same people. See this extensive list:
Looks like some sort of spam-for-hire ring.
--A. B. (talkcontribsglobal count) 15:07, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
no Declined per A. B. --Hu12 (talk) 16:16, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Additionaly, Sherry, I see you contributions to Wikipedia all involve adding links to the company Neolane Inc., and a similar account has created the article Neolane (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views);
Please understand that Wikipedia is not a means of promotion A few established Wikipedia policies;
I'll remind you, that your username contains your personal name which appears to connect you to Zco Corporation ( Digital Marketing Service). See "public relations, and marketing" --Hu12 (talk) 16:16, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

latestmoviez.com[edit]

Facebook.com/ShakespearsSisterOfficial[edit]

This is plain weird, but for some reason the official music page of Shakespears Sister on Facebook is blacklisted specifically. There is nothing vulgar or pornographic on the page, it's simply an artist page with important news and announcements, that is essential to use as a source.--Meluvseveryone (talk) 18:49, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Here are the relevant links supporting the blacklisting: [24] [25] [26]
Apparently the page was spammed multiple times, and the person controlling the page was unable to demonstrate that the domains registered, and by association the facebook page are indeed official as claimed. I don't see any reason to remove from the blacklist. ~Amatulić (talk) 22:58, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Avoiceformen.com[edit]

indianetzone.com[edit]

indianetzone.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:frSpamcheckMER-C X-wikigs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: searchmeta • Domain: domaintoolsAboutUs.com

This links to an encyclopedia site. I got useful information on the Bikaner Camel Corps from here: indianetzone.com/64/bikaner_camel_corps.htm. Yes, the site design is terrible, but that doesn't make it spam (nor does the fact that an IP inappropriately added links from the same company, not the same domain). I got the following information from the site [these are my notes]:

  • Bikaner Camel Corps operated under Imperial Service Troops in India
  • Participated in WWI and WWII
    • Imperial Service Troops under "official armed forces of the princely states of India under the British Empire"
    • Served alongside with British Indian Army

Prof. Squirrel (talk) 18:17, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relevant case at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam/2008 Archive Jul 1#Jupiter Infomedia spam on Wikipedia.
That site consists of user-generated content similar to Wikipedia, and is therefore not useful as a reference here. According to their press release:
The most unique feature of Indianetzone is that it gives a platform to the general people to display their talent and writing skills. The special section called Become A Writer invites the readers to contribute articles on any subject of their choice which is published on the website along with the author's description and photograph. This, according to Mr. Modi, will help students to build up their profile and become a popular name on the Internet.
While the articles appear well written and are probably well researched by their respective authors, the press release disqualifies those articles as Wikipedia:Reliable sources. no Declined. ~Amatulić (talk) 02:17, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, thanks then. Prof. Squirrel (talk) 03:38, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

ncww2mt.freewebspace.com[edit]

ncww2mt.freewebspace.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:frSpamcheckMER-C X-wikigs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: searchmeta • Domain: domaintoolsAboutUs.com

Appears to have got trapped by other wider blocks on freewebs sites. Tying to fill in ref detail on Closed cinemas in Kingston upon Hull Keith D (talk) 18:39, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nah, the whole domain is simply blacklisted. I presume you are looking for a local whitelisting on the Wiki where you are using it, we can't whitelist globally and I don't think we are removing a whole domain just for one ref (where the rest may still give us the old problems). --Beetstra (public) (Dirk BeetstraT C on public computers) 08:11, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Just looking at English Wikipedia so whitelist there would be fine. Keith D (talk) 10:18, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hence,  Defer to Whitelist. --Beetstra (public) (Dirk BeetstraT C on public computers) 10:42, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

www.nextiva.com[edit]

nextiva.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:frSpamcheckMER-C X-wikigs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: searchmeta • Domain: domaintoolsAboutUs.com

Would just to know why the website was blocked? And if it is possible to unblock it. I am currently creating an article of the said company, and I am adding references linked to that site. Thanks! --Renzoy16 | Contact Me 09:44, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Was added over on Meta (globally blocked) due to multi-account related spamming. Hyperlinking to primary sources isn't needed when an article is under development, so once your article is in the article space, just  Defer to Whitelist and request a specific URL you would like to use.--Hu12 (talk) 15:41, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

mymovingreviews.com[edit]

mymovingreviews.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:frSpamcheckMER-C X-wikigs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: searchmeta • Domain: domaintoolsAboutUs.com

I was trying to add a page as a source regarding moving companies lawsuits. The site is a user-generated reviews site for moving companies and they also write about the industry/cover industry news in the news section. I see that some companies have abused Wikipedia by adding links to the website to their company profiles, but the website is a reputation in the moving industry and is mentioned all over the news (cnet, reuters, pcword, etc.). They also have some interesting interviews of authorities and news coverages in the niche that can also be of value to Wikipedia, especially around the new moving scam reports released by the Department of Transportation and senate.gov. I also don't think that many companies will abuse by adding links to the site as there are only a few moving companies (the largest ones) listed in Wikipedia. I think it will be of benefit is it is removed from the blacklist. Thanks!— Preceding unsigned comment added by MarieContrado (talkcontribs) 15:07, 13 December 2012‎

In addition to the past abuse, user-generated content fails Wikipedias specific inclusion requirements of our External Links policy, Verifiability Policy and Reliable Source guidelines. Not done--Hu12 (talk) 19:42, 13 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Hu12, thanks for the quick reply. I was particularly referring to the non user-generated part of the site.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.19.44.173 (talkcontribs) 13:15, 14 December 2012‎

Specifically you mentioned the interviews, news coverage and moving scam reports. They are all user generated, very little isn't. Neither the Department of Transportation or senate.gov are blocked.--Hu12 (talk) 13:56, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hu12, I think you've misunderstood me. Here are some examples of non user-generated types of content I mentioned earlier: /move/exclusive-interview-amsa (interview) /move/moving-industry-snapshot-2012 (stats) /move/lawsuit-against-moving-companies (article) /move/cutting-expenses-with-reviews (research) Since the site is still in the blacklist, I can't paste the full path. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.19.44.173 (talk) 14:13, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly, user generated.--Hu12 (talk) 15:03, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have tried to save the citation and this url Bulanda, Susan (August 18, 2010). [examiner.com/article/important-research-for-leonberger-dogs-inherited-polyneuropathy-ipn "Important research for Leonberger dogs, inherited polyneuropathy (IPN)"]. Retrieved December 17, 2012. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help) which apparently is on the black list. I eliminated the "http://www" from the link, so that I can save this, and show you where I found it. I request that this link be permitted. I was sent to you by the help desk. Thank you. 7&6=thirteen () 01:50, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why not use an alternative source? http://www.akcchf.org/canine-health/health-testing/spotlight-on-genetic-tests/inherited-polyneuropathy-in.html looks to have similar information. Werieth (talk) 01:53, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Works for me. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen () 02:02, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

virtualmedicalcentre.com for Sweat gland[edit]

virtualmedicalcentre.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:frSpamcheckMER-C X-wikigs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: searchmeta • Domain: domaintoolsAboutUs.com

Me again. Specifically, virtualmedicalcentre.com/anatomy/sweating-perspiration/75 . The article has a lot of good information, especially on eccrine v. apocrine v. apoeccrine glands. The site is verified by Health On the Net Foundation (verification here) and it's not on Quackwatch. —Prof. Squirrel (talk) 05:47, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What you are basically asking for is whitelisting of one specific link, hence:  Defer to Whitelist. --Beetstra (public) (Dirk BeetstraT C on public computers) 08:16, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

moneyweek.com[edit]

moneyweek.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:frSpamcheckMER-C X-wikigs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: searchmeta • Domain: domaintoolsAboutUs.com

MoneyWeek is a reputable UK finance publication, which has its own Wikipedia article - MoneyWeek. -- Astellix (talk) 06:14, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, there was relentless spamming abusing sites related to this by several editors using several domains with a clear incentive to abuse Wikipedia for the profit of these sites (it may have included this site). It may be that the site is useful somewhere, but for that, a good, specific whitelisting is sufficient -  Defer to Whitelist. --Beetstra (public) (Dirk BeetstraT C on public computers) 08:13, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

examiner.com[edit]

The article I wish to link is: examiner.com/article/hoekstra-reconsiders-decides-to-challenge-stabenow

I read the Common Requests and it looks like the issues regarding examiner.com are more closely related to editorial policy then outright spam.

This particular article is non-controversial in content and is being used as a replacement for a dead link that was available in a better known publication: [27]. The Detroit News routinely removes articles after a short period of time. The content is reliable, but the examiner has preserved it's content longer.

It should be made available for the article, United States Senate election in Michigan, 2012. Currently, the citation is referenced in a non-linked form.--Libertyguy (talk) 05:10, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think this should be handled at the whitelist -  Defer to Whitelist. --Beetstra (public) (Dirk BeetstraT C on public computers) 06:12, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
And if I saw that request on the whitelist page, I'd decline it. It's standard political news that should be available anywhere; no need to reference something written by a student. ~Amatulić (talk) 18:21, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Troubleshooting and problems[edit]

Discussion[edit]

Log?[edit]

Just a quick question, is there a log of edits that trigger the spam blacklist, analogous to the edit filter log? Deli nk (talk) 21:00, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

bugzilla:1542 MER-C 11:14, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. A log would be useful, but since that bugzilla request has been there since 2005, I guess it doesn't seem too likely that it will happen. Deli nk (talk) 13:33, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Namespace filter?[edit]

It would be useful to blacklist links to some sites from articles only, such as those that provide potentially useful information but don't meet the requirements for reliable sources. Is this possible? If not has this been requested? Peter James (talk) 23:39, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Spam filter screen[edit]

At the end of the page there's a link to return to the editing page, but the edit is lost. Until bugzilla:23193 (or comment 2 of bugzilla:9416) is fixed, could this be replaced with a message saying to use the back button? Peter James (talk) 23:39, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]